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BarkellWH
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Yesterday Richard III was reinterred in Leicester Cathedral with far more dignity than that accompanying his original interment, with his death at the Battle of Bosworth Field in 1485. Richard's reputation suffered mightily, primarily due to Shakespeare's depiction of him in his play "Richard III."
Nevertheless, Richard's reputation is undergoing a reevaluation, and he is not considered quite the villain Shakespeare portrayed in his play. This is primarily due to the indefatigable efforts of one of his heirs and relatives living today, our very own friend and colleague, Richard Jernigan, who has been trying to salvage the reputation of his namesake and ancestor. We all know how taciturn and reluctant Richard Jernigan is to discuss his links to European royalty and nobility. It has long been suspected, however, and DNA testing has now confirmed, that not only is Richard related to Richard III, but he also is related to Henry Tudor, who defeated Richard at the Battle of Bosworth Field and succeeded him as king, thus ending the Plantagenet line and the War of the Roses.
The news media have been clamoring for an interview with Mr. Jernigan, but so far there has been no word from his home in Austin. It is unknown if Mr. Jernigan is at home or traveling. It is known that Richard frequents the Hotel Emperador in Madrid and for decades has maintained a suite there. One cable news reporter tried to get an interview with Richard's personal valet at the Emperador, Mr. Jose Izaguirre. (Note: Richard once observed that Mr. Izaguirre is a Basque, and that Basques make the finest valets, as they know how to lay out one's clothes for the day in just the right sequence.) In any case, Mr Izaguirre refused the interview, thus preserving Richard's penchant for anonymity.
Bill
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And the end of the fight is a tombstone white,
With the name of the late deceased,
And the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here,
Who tried to hustle the East."
--Rudyard Kipling
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Date Mar. 27 2015 13:26:37
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runner
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RE: Richard III Reinterred (in reply to BarkellWH)
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I wish Mr. Jernigan would use his influence at Buck House to persuade the Windsors to adopt a brand-new set of names for their expected heirs to the chair. As an Anglophile, I have become surfeited with the long string of Edwards and Henrys (now eight) and Georges (now six) who have reigned thus far, and was dismayed that, after resurrecting Charles, and looking ahead to a fifth William, we're to have yet another George. I know that, for obvious reasons, Richards are out, as are Johns. The James seem to have been out of favor since the unpleasantness over choice of religions, and Stephen was likely a one-off, but surely there are scores of fine names that would be perfectly acceptable to the Church of England that should be considered for future monarchs of the Sceptered Isle. How about some Arthurs, Edmunds, Harolds, Alfreds, all past kings? Richard, consider this your next great challenge.
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The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.
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Date Mar. 27 2015 17:45:42
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Richard Jernigan
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From: Austin, Texas USA
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RE: Richard III Reinterred (in reply to BarkellWH)
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Mr. Barkell's interest in history is notorious, but he has confused some of the facts, perhaps in his enthusiasm to associate himself with an old family, long on the political sidelines due to their recusancy at the Reformation.
The last time I stayed at the Emperador was in July 1991. On my way to an overseas assignment, I stopped off in Madrid to buy a guitar. Indeed I do maintain a suite there, but as explained earlier, it is for exclusive use of the young women who frequent the area late at night. They need a place where they can warm up after standing about in the winter chill wearing short shorts and tank tops.
In Madrid I would recommend either the Ritz or the Palace. They are convenient to the Prado, one of my favorite places in the city, service is decent, and there are a number of small, charming and inexpensive restaurants in the area just to the west, plus the best place for the multi-course cocido madrileño.
Mr.Barkell is also confused about my family. But perhaps from his extensive historical knowledge, and his somewhat surprising interest in my ancestry, he can shed some light. My grandfather told me that the first Richard Jerningham was named in honor of Richard Neville, the 16th Earl of Warwick. Warwick was of course related to Richard III, being both his first cousin and his father-in-law. But I am unaware of any connection, by blood or politics to Warwick. The only Neville in my father's direct line is one of my great grandmothers. I have heard it said that she was related to Warwick, but I have not seen a pedigree with the details. My first name is from one of my mother's brothers, there having been no Richard in my father's direct line for more than four centuries.
Given the intermarriage of the old families, there is almost certainly Plantagenet blood in the family, Tudor less likely, but any such relationship would be fairly distant, according to the records I have seen.
So perhaps with his extensive historical knowledge, Mr. Barkell can say what connection the Jerninghams had with the Nevilles back in the day? Or is he just Barkelling up the wrong tree?
Lord Stanley stood aside with his forces at Bosworth field, until the rash actions of both Richard III and Henry Tudor brought them close to him. It was Stanley's men who delivered the decisive blows. Some say the Duke of Northumberland refused to come to Richard's aid when commanded. Others say he was impeded by high ground.
My ancestor was even more circumspect, remaining at home in East Anglia with his knights and footmen until the issue was decided. Many others did the same. But my family were prompt in attaching themselves to the victor, as they had been centuries before, after the Conquest.
RNJ
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Date Mar. 27 2015 20:00:29
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Richard Jernigan
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RE: Richard III Reinterred (in reply to guitarbuddha)
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David--
As is frequently the case, I am at a loss as to what you are driving at here. You are too subtle for me.
But when I drink with someone it is share and share alike, unless one of us decides he or she has had enough.
Where did the Cherokee come from in my little fiction? They lived in North and South Carolina, before their forced internment in the Indian Territory, subsequently the state of Oklahoma. Just now, after writing out the next episode in the running joke among Bill, Stephen and me, for the first time in years I have thought of my best friend in first grade at Lincoln School in Oklahoma City. The only name he was known by there was H.O. W___. He was pureblood Cherokee, who could, at age six, recite his genealogy for several minutes. Surely H.O. was the subconscious prototype for my fictitious drinking companion.
Tribe and clan membership were important to H.O. Twenty-one years later, after my grandfather's funeral, my grandmother asked me to go through the book for signatures that stood by the church door. I identified more than 250 relatives whom I knew by name, and looked up their addresses so they could be thanked for attending. Two of my cousins were asked to check the list, and found maybe a dozen more.
Perhaps one reason H.O. and I found one another interesting was because each of us knew hundreds of people with whom we shared a common ancestor, but he and I knew of none. I'm sure each of us found the other a little exotic, but six-year olds are more accustomed to novelty than adults often are.
We attended one another's birthday parties, but we never drank whisky together.
RNJ
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Date Mar. 28 2015 4:50:55
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guitarbuddha
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RE: Richard III Reinterred (in reply to Richard Jernigan)
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There may be in the order of 1 to 10 ancestors capable both of treading the earth and giving their children the gift of a name.
As he chanted his great many verses taking up a large part of the evening that left the Whisky in your hands.
Since his boasting deserved the quip you quoted I suggested that you could start from the other end, perhaps with Eve perhaps not. From that end you were both on common ground and you personally would also have been able to use your extensive knowledge of genealogy (JernUUGGHH being a common pictogram in cave paintings) to share in the recitation of the great litany of common ancestors thus fascilitating the passing of the bottle between verses, rather than leaving your in your cups resenting his showboating and choosing choice insults from the spectator to file away and damn him.
Eventually this shared recitation would progress to the point at which your friends kin crossed from Siberia to America to sit a long vigil for the prodigal JernUUGGHH'S ,as yours forefathers drifted back southwards in Europe . Thus the alienation I described.
So greatly alienated would they become in fact that when they eventually met again on common ground they could not recognise each other. And,tragically, before the kindred could be acknowledged and the friendship rekindled one of the top five known genocides in human history had to take place (the scale of the Barkmagnon extinction being hard to estimate).
As you see Richard not very subtle at all, I never am.
I even fail when I try for to be concise and manage instead only curtness. I hope my poorly crafted rejoinder makes sense now and isn't too far from the spirit of the thread. And I guess it is coloured by my preference of working from first principles outwards which many find odd preferring, as many will do, to focus instead on special cases and close to home.
And of course at a campfire, while others chant, I prefer to pass around a guitar or a tambourine rather than a Whisky bottle..
D.
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Date Mar. 28 2015 16:20:14
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Richard Jernigan
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RE: Richard III Reinterred (in reply to guitarbuddha)
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The "Spectator" wisecrack was directed at both of us. I first heard it directed at me. My impersonation of the upper class twit is meant as satire.
Years ago I picked up a little book of photographs in a Menlo Park bookstore. It had remarkable images of old women in the monumental boudoirs of their Newport "cottages"--the rococo summer mansions of the Gilded Age robber barons. In the 1970s many of those houses remained in the original families.
The women, ranging in age from their seventies to their late eighties, were still remarkably beautiful. Through all the wrinkles and defects, the perfect bone structure still showed. And despite the sometimes moderating effects of age, the hauteur still radiated.
Over in the back I saw, in small print, "Photographs by Nan Jernigan"--one of my Virginia cousins. Next time I ran into her I congratulated her on her work. Then I said, "How have you been punished for abusing your access?"
She replied, "Oh, before the book even came out I was already ostracized for living in sin with a French painter."
RNJ
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Date Mar. 28 2015 17:12:07
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BarkellWH
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RE: Richard III Reinterred (in reply to guitarbuddha)
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quote:
And of course at a campfire, while others chant, I prefer to pass around a guitar or a tambourine rather than a Whisky bottle..
They are not mutually exclusive. In fact, guitars, tambourines, and whisky (or wine) can be quite complementary items to have around a campfire.
Bill
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And the end of the fight is a tombstone white,
With the name of the late deceased,
And the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here,
Who tried to hustle the East."
--Rudyard Kipling
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Date Mar. 28 2015 17:47:01
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