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Miguel de Maria

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Cool rumbas 

I have been looking for some new licks and checking out rumbas. Any suggestions besides the usual Friday Night Trio, etc?

This one is bada$$:

http://grooveshark.com/#!/search/song?q=Juan+Manuel+Ca%C3%B1izares+Toca+Madera

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 28 2014 18:08:18
 
Miguel de Maria

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RE: Cool rumbas (in reply to Miguel de Maria

No one, really? Okay, check out Nino de Pura's "Fartlek". Just a little here I found online--beware, there's some cheese. That's just how he rolls.



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 29 2014 13:57:28
 
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Miguel de Maria

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RE: Cool rumbas (in reply to Miguel de Maria

That's pretty cool. Is it my imagination, or is it a little Gerardo-ish? Damn, who's that good looking dude?

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RE: Cool rumbas (in reply to Miguel de Maria

quote:

I have been looking for some new licks and checking out rumbas. Any suggestions besides the usual Friday Night Trio, etc?


I'm guessing you've already mastered the rumbas by Vicente and Gerardo...

There's also:

Antonio Rey's "A Través de Tí";
Chicuelo's "Crema catalana";
Plus the two rumbas on Jason McGuire's album.

Sorry if those are obvious.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 31 2014 10:04:09
 
Miguel de Maria

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RE: Cool rumbas (in reply to machopicasso

Heheh, I'll go back and check on VA and GN and your suggestions too :) I have never even tried to play anything by VA before, although I like his style. As far as GN, I don't know his stuff too well. I showed my friend one of Ricardo's videos, and he said "that's from Nunez's first album". I had just thought it was one of Ricardo's things...

I like the Chicuelo and Rey! Very cool stuff.

I've always liked the light rumbas on Chico's (of GK fame) album by Mario Regis.


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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 31 2014 17:05:07
 
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RE: Cool rumbas (in reply to Miguel de Maria

Verdiales original abandolao compas but as sort of joke (and also because I was never happy with the compas attempts of my local buddies lol) I squashed it into a rumba. Taste issues of course, but hey at least I get to play it live a lot.

http://youtu.be/SC4-uzjyr1w

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 31 2014 17:08:23
 
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RE: Cool rumbas (in reply to Miguel de Maria

Que picao! Kinda disappointed though, really kept expecting you to sing with that mic right there! Lol

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RE: Cool rumbas (in reply to Leñador

That wasn't me, that was Mario Regis at some kind of French juerga thing! I couldn't find the album version online.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 1 2014 2:43:18
 
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RE: Cool rumbas (in reply to Miguel de Maria

quote:

As far as GN, I don't know his stuff too well.


Aw, man, you've been missing-out! Gerardo's awesome.

This "performance" clip is dubbed (not by his choice, I'm sure), but at least you can see some of the fingerings:

And then a couple of bozos like these come along and try to imitate the maestro. These people have no shame!



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RE: Cool rumbas (in reply to Miguel de Maria

I love Enrique de Melchor's....




  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 1 2014 18:57:02
 
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RE: Cool rumbas (in reply to Miguel de Maria

And this by Paco Cepero

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Miguel de Maria

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RE: Cool rumbas (in reply to johnnefastis

Johnnefastis,
thanks, I like it! I especially loved the second one, Carmin. That is a nice piece, and it looks like it could even work as a guitar solo. It seems hard to find stuff that doesn't need a band or at least a strummer to make it work.

Not, a rumba, but I think his "Noche y Dia" is also an excellent piece:



"Carmin" has some affinities with the Gipsy King track, "Felices Dias".

Unfortunately, the one time I got to see EdM live, the sound guy couldn't get his $hit together and I could hear nothing.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 2 2014 16:14:14
 
Miguel de Maria

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RE: Cool rumbas (in reply to machopicasso

Machopicasso, I have listened to that track. I have a couple of GN's albums, but his playing is so nimble and perfect that I never have even tried to mess with his stuff. Ricardo and that dude look like they've put in some dues there :)

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 2 2014 16:16:30
 
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RE: Cool rumbas (in reply to Miguel de Maria

quote:

ORIGINAL: Miguel de Maria
It seems hard to find stuff that doesn't need a band or at least a strummer to make it work.


When you asked for new licks, I was assuming you meant lead guitar licks. Improvising solos along to a rhythm guitar (Entre Dos Aguas, Rio Ancho etc) is a very different beast to playing a flamenco rumba 'piece' and there are examples of both in this thread.

For rumba 'compositions' I tend to prefer old school like Paco Pena (La Lola, Herencia Latina) but for rumba improv lead guitar work I think the best licks are found outside flamenco, not surprising as its not not really part of the flamenco tradition. You mentioned the Trio, IMO they wrote the text book on that. Tonino of course has a bunch of very steal-able licks.
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Miguel de Maria

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RE: Cool rumbas (in reply to Blondie#2

Yeah, man, I guess I was thinking more lead, since I have my looper now and can finally get to working on improv. Before, the only time was when I was actually gigging with another strummer. But my basis will always be solo guitar, so I also like to keep an eye out for the true solos. I do play a few of the Paco Pena ones, but I wish there was more of a repertoire for that kind of stuff. I guess it'd be easy enough to convert falsetas from other palos and make my own compositions.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Sep. 3 2014 17:12:28
 
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RE: Cool rumbas (in reply to Miguel de Maria

I think Carmin would be really nice as a solo.
There used to be a video of a young guy playing it on
YouTube and it sounded great.

Richard has tabbed it nicely here. Still not tackled it myself.
http://tabsflamenco.com

Do you play Tres Notas by Vicente ? I met a Mexican guy who made that
sound great as solo.

Keep them coming. I know what you mean there must be more out
there.

Cheers
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RE: Cool rumbas (in reply to Miguel de Maria

My favourite guitarist with a super cool rumba of his!


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RE: Cool rumbas (in reply to Miguel de Maria

So good... and I can vouch that it sound great when John plays bits
of it for solo guitar.

Still not learnt that beautiful arpeggio part.
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Miguel de Maria

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RE: Cool rumbas (in reply to JohnWalshGuitar

Wow, JohnWalsh, that quite a track. I honestly couldn't tell it was a rumba at all, but the guitarist did have some cool things going on. I was most interested in how they managed to mix it so the guitar could be so prominent in such a large ensemble of instruments all louder than an acoustic guitar. Wonder if it was actually recorded in a studio? I also wonder what the heck was that thing attached to the headstock?

Here's another rumba I've always loved: Piel de Toro by Riqueni. Especially love the alzapua section.

http://grooveshark.com/#!/search/song?q=Rafael+Riqueni+Piel+de+Toro

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RE: Cool rumbas (in reply to Miguel de Maria

Here you go;

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