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Stu

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From: London (the South of it), England

Social Media infection!

So I haven't really been on the foro consistently for the last year or two like I was prior to that.
In my time away, as well as practicing and doing real life stuff, I've used facebook more than I had before. (I guess social media has gone even crazier than it was 3-4 years ago) I don't really "use" it like some of these freaks but I go on there and post a pic from a holiday or press the like button on some friends posts here and there.

So when I came back to the foro the other week I was reading some posts in various threads and when I read someone's post that I liked or agreed with, some learned behaviour switched on inside me and my right finger twitched to click the 'like' button!! But of course there isn't one on the foro!

So then I thought I'd post asking if that was a possible addition that could be incorporated but then I thought perhaps that's not the kind of thing we want on here. I mean I think it may have the disadvantage of making people lazy and posting less if they can just hit 'like' but perhaps it may also have the opposite effect...like long term users who never post get a way to interact which may eventually lead to them posting..who knows?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 4 2014 21:28:02

Estevan

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From: Torontolucía

RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to Stu)

We used to have something like that, it became problematic through abuse so was removed. We're better off without it. And you will be much happier when you have weaned yourself off those dreadful social media habits.

Surely there's a support group somewhere - Facebookers Anonymous?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 4 2014 21:41:47

Miguel de Maria

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From: Phoenix, AZ

RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to Stu)

Superficial, soul-sucking crap, that stuff is.

No offense intended.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 4 2014 22:09:34

Leñador

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Joined: Jun. 8 2012
From: Los Angeles

RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to Stu)

We gots the

, that's kinda like a "like" button..........

Never had facebook or myspace and wont date anyone seriously who has it either. It will die soon, I'm certain of this.

quote:

Surely there's a support group somewhere - Facebookers Anonymous?

I passed by a new place by my house called the "Cyber Addiction Recovery Center" pretty crazy............In Culver City, funny thing is, they got a webpage lol
http://www.teenvideogameaddiction.com/

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 4 2014 22:22:29

Sr. Martins

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RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to Stu)

I use fb as a newsfeed and as a way to share files on private groups (university/band) as well as messaging (its free).

I think the "like" epidemic is making an entire generation unaware of the real meaning of the word "like".

Please, shoot yourself in the head if you post pics of your meals.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 4 2014 23:20:42

Ruphus

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RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to Leñador)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lenador

It will die soon, I'm certain of this.

Media reported that the youth considers it out already and that it would now prefer twitter.

From what I know about FB it appears to quite fit into ordinary demand of profiling oneself and shape an image. To individuals who feel dull / mediocre in the daily treadmill it must specially offer an opportunity to color oneself, - which mustn´t necessarily be a bad thing as long as the presentation won´t develop into all too unreal figures.

However, the like button appaers like quite a dangerous thing due to a human weakness that derives from primordeal fear.

Human ... , or should I say primates psyche, is prone to quickly becoming dependent on thelike valuing instance. And in the same way as "likes" could make one´s day, no "likes" could overly ruin it once used to a certain feedback. Indepedently from the source and its potential arbitrainess.

From there I estimate the abstinence of such feature to be rather healthy in general.
For everyone and more even for young / immature and fragile personalities.

Better to live with the vague selfconception of producing mixed, more or less useful stands all the time, sometimes well thought through, other times failing.

... And that it will always stay like that, even when you get 104 years old.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2014 8:35:21

FredGuitarraOle

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From: Lisboa, Portugal

RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to Leñador)

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Never had facebook or myspace and wont date anyone seriously who has it either.

Haha I thought I was the only one

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2014 16:45:38

Paul Magnussen

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From: London (living in the Bay Area)

RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to Leñador)

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Never had facebook or myspace and wont date anyone seriously who has it either.

I have Facebook, because it enables me to find old friends I’ve lost track of and (since I have a fairly uncommon name) vice versa. I’ve managed to get back in touch with several such already.

Apart from that, its interest seems minimal.

Am I alone in finding its interface extrremely counter-intuitive?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2014 17:17:49

BarkellWH

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From: Washington, DC

RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to FredGuitarraOle)

quote:

quote: Never had facebook or myspace and wont date anyone seriously who has it either.

Haha I thought I was the only one

You are not alone. I have no interest in Facebook or any other social media. One of my friends with whom I play squash is a Generation Y gal who tried to convince me I should have a Facebook account and offered to set me up with one. She abandoned the idea when I told her I did not want my creditors to be able to contact me.

In fact, I am a real Luddite. I do not own a cell phone, smart phone, or any other type of mobile phone. I manage just fine with my land line, where people can leave messages if they don't catch me at home. I am probably one of five people in the entire United States who does not own a mobile phone. It's just that I do not want to be "available" 24/7 to anyone who wants to call. If it's important enough, a message can be left on my machine. I am perfectly capable of using cell phones and do so when I am on a consulting gig for the Department of State or a Defense contractor, but they provide me with all the equipment I need when on such a gig.

I own a 24-year old Sony television and 37-year old Sony turn-table upon which I place whatever vinyl LP record I want to play. My computer is ten years old. I guess my one concession to modernity is I do have a collection of CDs to play when driving in my car.

I always find it amusing when I sit down at the bar in a pub to savor my beer, and all around me are patrons engaged with their smart phones, silently reading their text messages, no one looking up to converse with others. It seems to me that while they are engaged with "social media," the last thing they appear to care about is being social.

Cheers,

Bill

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2014 17:18:32

Paul Magnussen

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RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to BarkellWH)

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I am probably one of five people in the entire United States who does not own a mobile phone.

I’m the second.

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I own a 24-year old Sony television and 37-year old sony turn-table upon which I place whatever vinyl LP record I want to play. I guess my one concession to modernity is I do have a collection of CDs to play when driving in my car.

My Sony turn-table is even older than that (1977?)

For many years* I had a 13" Sony TV of the same vintage, that wound up dead centre between two 5-foot Definitive speakers. Friends would come over and say “You aren’t into TV much, are you?”

I confess to having succumbed to CDs, though: they’re so convenient.

*Until my wife won a 32" TV in a raffle at the Sony Christmas Party.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2014 17:30:13

Sr. Martins

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RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to Stu)

Talking about old sound systems..

Iam I the only one who feels that Hi-Fi amp & speaker systems from early 80's are usable as reference to mix music and that todays "Hi-Fi" systems are generally bloated with eq DSP and speakers that are tuned to not being flat?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2014 17:37:53

C. Vega

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RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to BarkellWH)

I don't participate in any of that "social media" nonsense either.
I'm pretty much a Luddite as well but I do admit to getting a cell phone about a year ago. I realized that for the limited use I make of the phone it was considerably cheaper for me to get a basic "pay-as-you-go" cell phone rather than give Verizon or another big company an exorbitant monthly fee for phone service I rarely used. I sometimes go for a couple of weeks or more and not make a single call. I can buy enough "minutes" in advance to last me for 3-4 months for less money than the basic monthly bill from the phone company used to be. And there are no additional long distance charges.
I don't have a smart phone. It probably wouldn't even qualify as a dumb phone. I can make phone calls (a novel concept these days) and receive voice mail with it but little else. No texting, no pictures no.... You get the idea.
I may be behind the times but I do like saving a buck when I can.

I agree with you, Bill.
I don't like the idea of being "always available" either. I don't freely give out my phone number. I value my privacy.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2014 17:41:11

Erik van Goch

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From: Netherlands

RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to BarkellWH)

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ORIGINAL: BarkellWH

I am probably one of five people in the entire United States who does not own a mobile phone.

Actually one recent US president (Bush?) did not use/own a mobile phone as well :-).

The only time i regretted having none myself was during the last IFFR were i could have used it to make a photograph of my meeting with martial artist Philip Ng, who was a special guest during the screening of "once upon a time in shanghai".

I not only have a 25 year old tele myself but also a couple of spare ones (to be "future proof"). I wouldn't mind buying a good 3D projection set but for non HD material i will always favor to use my old tele. Funny enough the same people who don't see the problems of watching non DH material in HD format failed to see the difference between a good and a bad television 25 years ago (Sony and Philips really were a class on their own). On top no television matches the big screen and the cine in the netherlands is incredibly cheap (50,- a month gives near unrestricted access). I wouldn't change my well chosen hifi set of the 80's for modern day replacements and every time my DVD recorder needs replacement i buy the same model second hand because i hate the modern versions known to me.

I guess my only link with modern times basically is my Mac and the internet connection i had installed 3 years ago.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2014 17:52:28

Paul Magnussen

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RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to Sr. Martins)

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todays "Hi-Fi" systems are generally bloated with eq DSP and speakers that are tuned to not being flat?

They should come preset flat, but adjustable to suit your room and your personal preference. Mine certainly are: I bought them in 1995 and I couldn’t be happier.

But I agree that good vintage stuff has a certain something (anyone remember Leak Sandwich speakers? Quad Electrostatics?)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2014 17:56:37

mezzo

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RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to Stu)

if there's a like button, then must also be a dislike one. I do not own fessebook account but I guess it's the same as YT like/dislike.
I read somewhere that only with the like button, it's possible to profile someone in a lot of fields. Facebookers do not need to state anything, the buton have is own truth. What the Corp. made with all these info, stocked in the cloud? I should ask the button [:D

[No cell phones. Hopefully, you have e-mails. Sukuritat Agency can still read 'em]

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2014 18:51:11

Arash

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RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to FredGuitarraOle)

quote:

ORIGINAL: FredGuitarraOle

quote:

Never had facebook or myspace and wont date anyone seriously who has it either.

Haha I thought I was the only one

You guys are not alone.

EVEN MY MOTHER HAS FACEBOOK,,,,, but I don't.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2014 20:10:04

Ruphus

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RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to Stu)

In Germany people wanted to give me mobile phones several times, which I kindly rejected. Only before settling over here me purchased one, in case of getting lost in a strange country.

Funny thing is that I really would had wanted one in the seventies, when my bro had one built for himself which must have been the first private one in Germany.

Had no TV for 15 years / only plugged one in ~4 years ago to keep in touch with home scene. ( And boy, have the channels detoriated since the German pisa generation itself grew into programm directors´positions too. All soccer, sports, whodunnit and soap opera crap. You can actually feel your IQ constantly drop to knee hight while watching.)

My speakers are from the eighties too. However they are extreme boutique gear and used to come in for the price of a BMW. Don´t know if that counts.
Eventhough tweeters are not operating ( proly caps of the size of cans dead) with the horns having to take over, people are amazed about the sound, which is so smooth that you won´t guess the actual volume. Yet, when you enter other rooms or leave the house you realize how loud they actually are.

Ruphus

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2014 20:14:28

Stu

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From: London (the South of it), England

RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to Stu)

quote:

I guess my one concession to modernity is I do have a collection of CDs to play when driving in my car.

So you have a cd player in your car then!! not that retro, wheres the cassette player?

oh and what car is it?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2014 21:26:10

BarkellWH

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RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to Stu)

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So you have a cd player in your car then!! not that retro, wheres the cassette player? oh and what car is it?

2010 Honda Civic. These days, all cars come with CD players, so there is no choice but to play CDs.

Cheers,

Bill

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With the name of the late deceased,
And the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here,
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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 5 2014 22:32:19

Ruphus

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RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to Stu)

Mine came with a cassette player.
However, one that tears out the tape and eats it.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 6 2014 0:04:43

vigrond

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RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to Stu)

i prefer the reddit-style upvote/downvote

though there already is a flamenco subreddit -

http://reddit.com/r/flamenco

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 6 2014 2:30:01

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RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to Stu)

With Facebook buying Oculus Rift it looks like were headed to a full VR presence in cyberspace.

I avoided mobile phones for as long as I could but now I love my iphone. I only wish it could play the videos posted here. Most simply disappear. I suppose they must be flash.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 6 2014 5:59:11

kikkoman

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RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to Stu)

a lot of people that love to judge people that use social media here

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 6 2014 6:55:11

Erik van Goch

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RE: Social Media infection! (in reply to BarkellWH)

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ORIGINAL: BarkellWH

In fact, I am a real Luddite. I do not own a cell phone, smart phone, or any other type of mobile phone. I manage just fine with my land line, where people can leave messages if they don't catch me at home. I am probably one of five people in the entire United States who does not own a mobile phone. It's just that I do not want to be "available" 24/7 to anyone who wants to call.

I already mentioned one of the recent US presidents had no mobile phone, but if i'm not mistaken Steve Jobs had no either. Although in a way he owned thousands of them i don't think he used them himself, probably for the reason you mentioned.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 6 2014 9:47:45