...that bridge...

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beno

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From: Hungary

...that bridge...

I really don't want to open a can of worms again, but...
I'm on Facebook and a mexican luthier marked me as friend. He's name is Gerardo Escobedo. He recently posted 2 pictures that say more than words..

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beno

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RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to beno)

I'm sure that bridge and the headstock's shape are familiar to a lot of people

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Ricardo

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RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to beno)

Made in Spain. Orale guey

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el carbonero

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RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to beno)

the line ont the top dont give belief ,and the headstock is ugly.

dont buy this guitar

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 5 2014 20:30:07

beno

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From: Hungary

RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to beno)

I don't want to buy this guitar, no way. If You don't understand the topic, do a search on the foro for Andalusian guitars...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 6 2014 12:52:22

mark indigo

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RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to beno)

quote:

Gerardo Escobedo

he has some guitars for sale at La Sonanta with the same bridge, but different headstock, I guess the ones he makes with this headstock are made for sale in "Andalusia"

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 6 2014 13:22:01

beno

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From: Hungary

RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to beno)

quote:

but different headstock, I guess the ones he makes with this headstock are made for sale in "Andalusia"

Yes, but those cannot be sold for 10,000 USD....

....again, this is not against Escobedo...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 6 2014 18:48:34

Rmn

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RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to beno)

the other day I saw a concert of a baroque duo playing original 18th century instruments. its an italian builder who had this headstock

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 6 2014 19:30:28

beno

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RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to beno)

" No news under the sun" - Hungarian proverb

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withinity

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RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to beno)

wow that guy is a grade A con artist legit.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 7 2014 8:46:38

withinity

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RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to beno)

Now Diego del Morao is promoting these guitars. Hmm

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 7 2014 17:51:12

Leñador

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RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to beno)

He said "It's original, and......I like it." Sounds very much like politeness to me....it's original, lol that's nice for ugly :)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 7 2014 17:57:11

withinity

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RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to beno)

Indeed, i didn't say he was enthusiastic about it , but the fact is he let himself be recorded while playing it.

My guess is he knows this is going to go on the Internet, and Ruben knows how big of an impact a Name can have on an individual due to the symbolic nature of the way we view things.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 7 2014 18:13:28

Arash

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From: Iran (living in Germany)

RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to beno)

"Its original.." (with sunglasses on...in a 30 sec. vid)...

google translator says: "This guitar sucks, now turn off the camera, unlock the door and and let me out Ruben"

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 8 2014 6:03:39

mark74

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RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to beno)

Hearing Diego play those strings reminds me of my favorite town in Cadiz, Mexico City

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 8 2014 6:42:53

mark indigo

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RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to withinity)

quote:

Now Diego del Morao is promoting these guitars. Hmm

are you sure that's Diego?
Has he lost weight?
I'm wondering if the "Diego" is also a fake, that would fit with the rest of the set up....

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 8 2014 13:12:57

Leñador

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RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to beno)

I like how the subtitles added "very much" even though he didn't say it lol

quote:

"Its original.." (with sunglasses on...in a 30 sec. vid)...

google translator says: "This guitar sucks, now turn off the camera, unlock the door and and let me out.

Lololol

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 8 2014 15:44:00

mark74

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RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to beno)

Im thinking of going out for some tapas tonight. Maybe get some cool ranch dorrito taco supremes, some bean burritos with guacamole, some mild sauce and maybe a few tintos of modelo extra

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withinity

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RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to mark indigo)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mark indigo

quote:

Now Diego del Morao is promoting these guitars. Hmm

are you sure that's Diego?
Has he lost weight?
I'm wondering if the "Diego" is also a fake, that would fit with the rest of the set up....

hahaha , i wouldn't put it past him.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 9 2014 8:11:28

beno

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RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to beno)

no way Diego would turn up on a juerga or concert with a guitar as ugly as that!
LOL

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 9 2014 11:46:14

davidheis_24

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From: QLD AUS

RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to beno)

hahahaha hilarious! money and free/discounted guitars, the biggest endorsement is if they actually play it regularly in their concerts
anyway..
can someone correct me but at around 3:20 mins when paco starts to be filmed back on the beach....take a close look......headstock...could it be?

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beno

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RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to beno)

quote:

.take a close look......headstock...could it be?

no..it doesn't have a soundport! hahaha

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 17 2014 9:23:10

mark indigo

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RE: ...that bridge... (in reply to davidheis_24)

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when paco starts to be filmed back on the beach....take a close look......headstock...could it be?

could be - I think there's a photo somewhere of Ruben with Paco and one of these guitars.
He probably gave, or tried to give, Paco one of these guitars, probably tried to film him playing it like he did with Antonio Rey.
(But Paco was too smart, all Ruben managed to get was a photo, and Paco's lawyers stopped him from using it)
So Paco probably had one of these guitars.....
Did Paco play it on any recordings? No.
Did Paco play it in any concerts? No.
Did he keep it in a case like all his other great guitars? No.
What did he do with it?
used it as his "beater" - messed around with it on the beach, tried surfing on it, eventually put it on the fire and cooked some fish over it - all it was good for

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