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Ruphus
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Yesterday there has been premiere in German TV for as far as I can oversee, in that first time there has been mentioned background of private interests behind a country´s happenings.
It was reported on oligarch´s interests with the turmoil in Ukraine.
As times and proportions drastically change, we will be seeing the unthought for other countries too. Mentionings of why and hows of oligarchs anywhere and their threading, including in the EU and USA.
This, because creaming off developed so grossly that there will be little sense in trying to cover it. The new proportions in conjunction with the effects of the internet is introducing a new state of reflection. We are getting to a point where mind shaping instances and media realize that keeping up the projection of conscientious economy will only leave them untrustworthy.
The factual contradictions of the illusory world have grown out of size.
Times are over when upper officials would do with some million dollars bribe offshore. When autocrats be content with sucking out some hundred millions of bucks from their country.
Whatever of rudimentary scruple there used to be, it has entirely vanished with a new level of illiteracy and crudity.
When the Arab countries had their "spring" their tyrans were reported to have had purloined between 40 to 100 billion $ each. ( BTW, anyone heard a single note about remains of those loots? No?
Don´t you wonder.)
Around here the top dog is being said to have extracted 300 billion.
And since yeterdays headlines we hear of the Chinese nomenklatura to have transfered € 3-4 trillion to their private accounts abroad.
( A claim they would had never even reacted to without the publicity of the internet. And the embezzlement likely would had neither been researched in the first place without the features of the internet. Long live the new medium of democracy!)
Can you fathom such numbers?!
Do you feel the unspeakable primitiveness of such excessively embezzling mindsets? - And they just ought to be the top of us! Examples of intelligence and integrity!
You wonder why you can´t feed your family with only one parent going for work, like it used to be? Why things - other than electronics- cost several times as much? You wonder why outcome becomes constantly harder to arrange for and why the hosts of empoverished are growing to your front door?
You wonder how come for instance that in EU parliament there are fabricated calculations standard that e.g. claim nuclear current was significantly less expensive than current form alternative technology, and thus plans established to build some hundred additional nuclear power plants in the EU ...
While actually nuclear current is 70% more expensive, with even enormous efforts for disposal of nuclear waste not yet considered?
You wonder how such bold and damaging suppression of truth is possible in democrat parliaments like Brussels? And that all the time?
Then you may also wonder how come the international pointing to Russia´s Putin ( reported as taking in 10 mio$ each for lobbyist consultations) as autocrat while in fact the policies at your home country are practically being the same.
And you may wonder where the legitimacy is, when democracy formally bans tyrant´s milking off from people, while the very democracy´s banks bow to incoming autocrats and the money they deposit in their bank house.
How come judicatives that will routingly kick your butt when you try to withhold your share of tax, or relentlessly frisk your lousy budget for "money laundering" ...
in the same time cannot see issue with single individuals who come ashore $ hundreds of billions of embezzled money?
In the same way as the proportions escalate, their covering up is getting less possible. The press is adapting with common sense to follow.
The caring-pharao bo||ocks of past 5000 years are going to show immensely.
Even todays most anaesthetized will understand a caste reality and actually private interests behind tomorrows public policies.
Ruphus
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Date Jan. 23 2014 10:49:19
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Ruphus
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RE: New Dimensions, New Times (in reply to Ruphus)
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I am certain that you actually guessed the preceding relativity.
Informed about communication control long before internet times, I was expecting more census than actually occured to date ( over here it is said to be only 5 mio sites that are banned), and am amazed about the relative freedom it still provides.
When you search for immanently relevant phenomenons concerning labour surplus value or fake democracy you may find that the internet can be surprisingly blank. Same when you try to read up on routine crime of combines, finding all dead links and your browsers "no server reply" message.
And at some places it could already be just intranet with mirrored access. From where I am for instance there has just been a week where an online newspaper would load only with one day of delay. ( Tuesday showing news from Monday, etc.) While other sites remained `real time´.
So; right. There is more than plausible reason to suspect a gagging of the internet. And misuse anyway.
And it is unclear in how far control, bypassing or mirroring might be in action already. (Simple measures like censoring aside.)
Thus, when I celebrate the internet, then in respect of what there is of it, and out of gratitude of that.
Just to think of:
What would be after the mass castration of the press that has left us with mere dummies of once investigative editorials ... IOW, basically only with different degrees of yellow press ...
If there was no internet either?
Horror!
Even inhibited as is, and prone to seeing even more circumcision in the future: The Internet has been a very special gift with already invaluable benefits to the people.
If you realize how undemocratic the global reign actually is, you must be fascinated by the measure of authencity that the internet appears to bear still.
That is at least how I see it.
May it stay with us.
Ruphus
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Keep in mind that the all-embracing control was there in the early eighties when the USA was already tracking all of electronic communication with analogue means. (Seeing from the means even more large-scaled than today, I´d say.)
Without internet today you would have the technical perfection of frisking and control, only without the informative advantages of the internet.
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Date Jan. 23 2014 21:03:59
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RE: New Dimensions, New Times (in reply to Ruphus)
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Ruphus, Good post but I too wonder if the inter-web isn't just a tool for the elites to keep on eye or pulse on the masses. I think it started as a great idea but has been usurped for more evil than good. Of course I watch the Matrix way too much so I'm probably paranoid. :)
"The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it."
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Date Jan. 23 2014 21:26:24
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Ruphus
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RE: New Dimensions, New Times (in reply to Ruphus)
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I have no clue about how evil could develop yet. Evil is just so much more versatile and featured than decency.
But your very interesting post is an invitation to playing around a bit.
Matrix´base was the direct milking of human body through advanced aliens.
What we appear to have on earth on the other hand is more trivial.
It is the rampant freaking out of dysfunctional human psyche.
To that human bodies are largely useless ( other than sporadically / on small scale for abuse or transplants ).
The actual exploiter rather need secondary products from the bodies.
Mainly labour, errand, service ... and on higher scale with partial feature of mind as specialized staff ... and not at last as adoring mass of entourage and paria.
For, the deranged human being is ordinarily compensating for essential emotional supply.
Its pathological greed only serving to vainly provide originally lacking emotional and physcial satisfaction.
The gross accumulation of goods is aimed to work as means, bait and substitute. A by-product to a desperate longing for satisfactory of basic human drives.
Anyway, to analog the Matrix the suspended bodies must drain recognition, empathy, loyality ... admiration, and ideally love.
Most perfect for the crippled soul appear to be hosts of servil and adoring sub-humans.
Such created submission albeit never compensating for his painful missings, with the deranged in the same time not being of the cognitive capacity to realize the futilility of the concept.
Most of the times not even aware of the ego concept, lest of the basing complex.
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Date Jan. 23 2014 22:24:53
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RE: New Dimensions, New Times (in reply to Ruphus)
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Keep in mind that the all-embracing control was there in the early eighties when the USA was already tracking all of electronic communication with analogue means. (Seeing from the means even more large-scaled than today, I´d say.)
Without internet today you would have the technical perfection of frisking and control, only without the informative advantages of the internet.
Internet is not a bad thing in itself, but one needs to be aware of the dark side of the force. I certainly not gonna idealize it.
As I see it, it's a good tool for alot of things but in return corporations behind it deprive us from some basic rights.
I'm not speaking about Governemental spying. After all a spy is there for collect infos. So every Nation (as Public entity) spy on his citizens, that's nothing new. Even if the latest whistleblower uncover how far this could go and how high collusion with mercantile sector is in that Surveillance State.
No, what piss me off is that if you want to use some services or plateform Corp. they put there for "free", you have to agree with their term of use. Of course you're free to refuse agreement, but in that case, you cannot use the plateform. So the ultimate freedom they let you is the right to ostracize yourself.
The point is that in their terms of use, they explain you how they gonna collect your datas, sell them to others corp., how they're gonna deprive you from your own work since all you put on their cloud became their property...of course this is not explained like this but it's drown behind pages and pages of technical blabla, that nobody is going to read anyway.
Again it's all about bizness and making big money. Nothing is free, we are the product, we as potential consumers are the target of all this organized and systematic datas collects. Now Google could even use our name, fotos and such for propaganda purpose. If you like a restaurant, a book or a sexshop then they use our thought as a marketing method and send this to your e-relations or to the www if they're looking for something similar.
Where's the freedom? Yes we're free to talk about what you want, that's democratic fun. Otherwise there's freedom to ostracize yourself.
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The internet is what Google tells us it is. lol
good epitome.
Even in country where freedom of speech is not a high value, Google make $$ . Morality is not a good buziness's friend.
Moral is good for politicians and other freemarket fundamentalist to agitate in front of the mass, Corporations do not care about it, money is money after all!
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Date Jan. 23 2014 23:07:33
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chester
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RE: New Dimensions, New Times (in reply to mezzo)
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It's great to have ideals, but I think it's also important to stay rooted in the real world.
'Democracy' is just a name for our current political system (if you live in a 'democratic' nation that is). It doesn't really mean that the people rule. Even in ancient Greece (where you might think a 'true' democracy existed) there were plenty of disenfranchised people who had even less power over their government than we do now. Still, I think it's preferable to being ruled by a king's 'divine right'.
'Freedom' is an illusion. It has never existed. We are living beings, chained to seeking nutritional and emotional sustenance throughout our entire lives. We are slaves to our bodies (anyone who has ever gotten sick or even hungry can attest to that), and will most likely lose our sanity without positive social interaction.
The government isn't denying us our 'freedom', it is in actuality an unattainable ideal.
But relatively speaking, I think we do have more freedom/information about the world around us than past generations. Not all, but much of it is due to the internet.
Of course politicians lie to their constituents/each other, but now they are frequently exposed through wikileaks. Whistleblowers like Snowden can disseminate information more easily using the WWW. The 'occupy' movement (although regarded largely as a failure) brought social inequality into mainstream discussions. I'm not old enough to have experienced it, but I can imagine information like this was easily squashed several decades ago.
Are these injustices easily fixable? Probably not, but at least we're aware of them.
Don't lose hope, the neocons keep accumulating power while we idle hopelessly and maintain the status quo.
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Date Jan. 24 2014 8:03:36
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Ruphus
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RE: New Dimensions, New Times (in reply to Ruphus)
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Natural dependencies ought not inevitably add up to enslaved being. Not at all.
We are since some thousand years now systematically being programmed to believe that status quo was only consequential, but actually it is paradox.
At and intellectual state of yielding amazing technology we are in the same time incapable of grasping yet most simple matters of course. And at an adequate anthropolgical state of nesting in pragmatism, solidarity, pleasure and high comfort, we are instead vegetating like prairie dogs. - Only that we have fallen far behind their level of social cohesion.
What is basically going wrong should be fairly simple to understand, however the cognitive processing of underdogs is happening in discrete chambers. Allowing employ of complex enough special subjects to serve as work horse, yet of no coherent intellect to realize the yet most blatant conditions.
The quote of that Matrix dialogue that Sig posted above, really hits the nail on its head.
Among the things urgently needed ( after the inalienability of labour surplus value, targeting of usury, profiteering and of sabotaging) is a fundamental change in educational systems.
The inquired discrete dealing must be exchanged with the opposite, associative thinking.
Principal matter like ethics must be elementary didactics, and personal support.
Skills of discourse must be enhanced.
For substantial decrease of criminal spirit subjects like meditation or autegene training should be part of the schedule, and according to very interesting latest insights: Learning of impulse suppression ( which can be done very easily).
And not at last for the rational: dedicated talent recognition and furthering.
As long as there persist an ( howsoever fake) votive of democracy ( IOW, no introduction of open slavery happening) essentials like the above are rather likely going to be occuring. Only, as I fear, not in time anymore to enable life in a natural environment.
Without it, without fellow species and recreational refuge / connection, human cannot stay human. For nature has always been our teacher, and as kind of an autodidact instead we will not be the same / be lost.
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Date Jan. 24 2014 10:06:43
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Ruphus
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RE: New Dimensions, New Times (in reply to Ruphus)
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Hi Z,
How it reminds me of the dysfunctional management my cousin tells me about, who works in the IT department of a German phone company.
That company is structured in a way that supports all contra productivity.
If you got a clue, you will stay work horse, if you got no clue you will rise up the ladder of career ( and even in no time). And with the structure as is, there is no interest into efficiency, for, efficiency would only dismantle the bloated hierachy of extremely overpaid yet useless dumbs.
When my big sister was doing her assistance doc in hospital, she was desperating over all those deaths which would only result from single chiefs´ incompetence in conjunction with vanity.
Only days ago in Germany there were headlines about needless death toll in hospitals ( several times as much than traffic deaths).
These days the needless dying in the medicine sector ought to be even larger than at those times of my sister decades ago. Because of the vastly expanded subjects and in the same time decreased intelligence of students and graduates.
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To tell you the truth, appreciating the planet and its beautiful evolution, I welcome all that reduces us insane vandals in numbers. But that won´t lessen the fact of inhumane, carless and berserk being evident in pharmaceutical and medical sector. ( With especially the pharmaceutic combines belonging to the most radical and shameless financial racketeers of the people.)
Hippocrates is definitly twisting in his grave.
I wish you a new position where you may be able to fully put your knowledge into constructive projects.
( - Like for instance with prophylaxis against childern mortality. A partial cause of overpopulation coming from parental reaction / prevention against child mortality. Just saying.)
Ruphus
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Date Jan. 24 2014 14:42:53
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RE: New Dimensions, New Times (in reply to guitarbuddha)
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For me, the sign of an evolved society is free healthcare and education for all.
/rant
It's the least we can, communally, expect and offer, as we are all robbed by governments. But bloated government and expensive wars take precedence. (And let's face it. The National Heath service is the number one killer in the UK. Just as the Catholic church, is, as it has always been, the number one paedophile ring. But nobody (with the power to act) cares. These people walk free. A monstrous, astronomically rich men's club with a history of naught but misery and evil. But on they go. I watched a PR Cardinal, an American guy on telly, actually moaning and whining as people were 'picking on the church'. I have no religion but I 'pray' a hell exists for these people to burn in.)
In the UK the tennancy laws caused the banking madness (with many other things but the market needed, above all, demand, a final end place). Creating money needs an outlet so let's allow everyone to borrow anything. Is there a single public employee, in the UK, who is not also a landlord?
It's the Highland clearances in slow step-time. The same nitwits who oversaw (helped to cause) the global crisis were put in charge of solving things but until the UK allows good tenants tenure, then nothing can be solved. The government are still pouring debt down the throats of the poor with their 'help to get on the ladder'. If one pays one's rent, on time, in the UK, the landlord can send the baliffs or sheriffs round to evict families. However, if a tenant does not pay rent they have the full protection of the law as precedence was set when a judge decided that eviction was too much of a punishment for late rent payment (and he's right but what about the people being punished for being good tenants but the landlord wants to 'flip'?) It is all, officially, upside down. So, the best tenants are the ones who never worked but receive state support so that the people who work for the state can all be landlords. The few remaining 'workers' foot the bill. There is even now a campaign to force landlords to allow 'longer leases' for families. Thus ensuring, by their good deeds, that landlords will, in future, not even rent to families.
If there is one advantage (and for sure in any other circtumstance it could hardly be described as such) that Spain has in this mess is that it has already had its housing crash. This is no comfort to people trapped within but the genral economy can, theorietically, recover as it has a real thing to recover from. (Although any recovery, we can all be assured, will be mishandled and bungled and corrupted by the politicians and their banker buddies.)
In the UK property prices are still in the stratosphere. When interests rates head north (and being almost zero there is only one place to go) the property bubble will finally burst.
Most frightening is the current profileration, in the UK, of loan sharking at rates of 5,000% pa, or more. The only sound from the authorities is that lenders should make sure that borrowers can pay, before they lend. Nothing at all about capping these monstrous interest rates. (Try missing a few paymnets on even the smallest amounts, at those rates and watch the power of compound interest turn a payday loan into a number fit for measuring the distance of a star.)
Companies, landlords, utilities, politicians; we need laws to protect us from them, their whims. Social responsibility must be introduced. A property market where one can rent one's property is fine. But one cannot be permitted to evict people, who take care of the property and pay on time. With tenure, the property bubbles become short of a couple of million landlords who can't live with the idea that their tenant might live for years before they leave or die.
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Date Jan. 25 2014 9:57:17
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Ruphus
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RE: New Dimensions, New Times (in reply to Ruphus)
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Incredible; 5000% pa, and that legally!?
I know that usury is practically excluded from capitalist juristic perception, but I really hadn´t thought such rates to be legally possible anywhere.
As you say a government should be of and for the people.
However, the states are set up for upside-down conduct. If you wanted states to protect the people you would need to fundamentally rework constitutions first.
These, praised in every school book and mainstream press as allegedly perfectly philanthropic, are actually badly arbitrary and often times basically injust.
Starting with the legitimated alienation of labour yields (which means giving up of people´s own best interest with lifetime, health and pretty much all that makes for quality of life) and further through many more of deprivations. Like the toleration and backup of blatantly tailored traps in contract, the shifting back and forth of duty to proof between defendant and accuser, only depending of what individually serves the superior.
Until not too long ago there was still included priority of possessions over right on health ( material rated over value of person) or right to physically mistreat within marriage, etc.
When repair of thelike sections was aimed at decades ago, it would have been a nobrainer of sincere policy to overhaul the whole of constitutions from scratch. The constitutions general inconsistencies were obvious and could had been targeted already.
Same with the undemocratic characteristics of indirect elections, parliamental immunity, etc.pp.
The constitutions of the backwarded and privileged should had been renewed and stuffed with basics of human right, like for instance special concern with primare demands like education, nutrition, housing and health.
All in a true state of the people to be strictly exluded from profiteering.
Instead we are having the exact opposite, with essentials like nutrition, housing and specially pharmaceutics / med supply being misused for levering some of the most extreme profit margins.
Further, upright ruling would acknowledge the existence of reason and the need of reasonable trade.
For, the philosophical insight that everything is subjective does not at all mean that price scheduling at any proportion was justified.
The value of a goods instead is being determined by the efforts taken to provide, not by the potential to squeeze of it nor any other arbitrainess.
A topical constitution would never dismiss the fact that money is a placeholder for labour, lifteime, health and life quality of working people.
And with it in place, it could had never come to the industrial hydrocephalus we are having meanwhile; with some 60 to 80% of the economy wedging in between / slicing off from 20 to 40% share of little people who are actually producing. And that on top at humiliating pay.
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Date Jan. 25 2014 11:06:02
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Miguel de Maria
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RE: New Dimensions, New Times (in reply to guitarbuddha)
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Okay, I'll take a rip at it. Just so you know, in a few hours I'm going to be playing a gig for a Fortune 10 company... hey, you gots to make a living.
I think the biggest problem in America, and perhaps the Western world, is the lack of trust. We have lost trust in the institutions--school, military, healthcare companies, insurance, banks, politicians--all of them! We don't trust them, so we expend great amounts of energy either "verifying" (as in, trust, but verify), fighting them, or learning how to avoid them. But this is a disaster. How can we teach our own, be minutemen, be our own doctors, insure ourselves, manage our money, etc? The answer is, we can't do everyone's jobs--we have to trust people at some point, or we just burn up at both ends.
So how can we trust institutions? When we are aware that schools are mostly about propagandizing, military about subjugating, healthcare about addicting and extracting, insurance about extorting, banks about looting, politicians simply facilitating the rich? On a lower level, can we trust a "social media company" to promote our businesses for $399/month just because they say they will? Can we trust a webguy to "do SEO" for us because we paid him thousands of dollars? Can we assume that a real estate agent is actually going to act in our best interests because he says he will? Do we know our guitar teacher is trying to help us, or does he want to string us along to get his $40 each week?
It does make it hard to operate in this capitalistic society, when there is no way to be reasonably sure your purchases, of goods or services, are authentic; yet it's impossible to be a self-sufficient island.
No wonder people are into religion!
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Date Jan. 25 2014 16:40:34
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Ruphus
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RE: New Dimensions, New Times (in reply to Ricardo)
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Good to see your input!
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ORIGINAL: Ricardo
wow...ya'll so depressing again. The world is F ing BEAUTIFUL! we all are lucky to experience this brief moment in time.
Only that some would prefer to experience that moment in time with the well-being it could mean to everyone and their environment. At least however without needlessly gross misery.
Midst an escalation that made even personalities like the pope or the president of the US concerned about an accelerating accumulation of the super rich / the social gap, as expressed by them just yesterday and the day before, ...
To you alike concerns must appear baseless / hysterical, in a world that is still twisting after all?
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ORIGINAL: Ricardo
Once you realize it, you understand what freedom is. Viva flamenco!, arsa y toma!!
Good that you mention freedom, as I´ve been pondeing about exactly that over the past days.
I grew up with the number one of investigative editorials, which once was "Der Spiegel".
In its high-times a paper like that used to make its occasional deals, receiving information in return for keeping quiet on other informational bits.
This has changed since over 20 years. With now pretty much the whole landscape of press being obedient to the establishment.
The only revealings you see since then are rejections from within cartells themselves. Offerings of deserters or competition by reigning networks.
From there the situation about truth on policies is tightly sealed since decades now.
Not worse enough, these days there seems one further point to become clear. Which is the unlikeness of leakings.
If lesser aware minds used to trust on remaining covered as informer of any investigative journalism, now after the public understanding about services like NSA ( and their complete suppliers from alikes like telephone companies, Acrobat, facebook, yahoo, google etc.) every potential informant will know that their discovery is instant.
This should mean that the times of investigative and sincere journalism will basically be over / hardly ever exceeding limits set by controlling instances.
Which again means the full subjection of common sense, with exactly NULL CHANCE of ever resisting any coming form of undemocratic government. The ready platform for total dictature.
Willing informants will be restricted to revealing oneself in the same time.
Just like with the cases currently given, which the US state is firmly intending to make detering examples of, for a reason.
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So, what freedom are you talking about?
The freedom of staying deprived of personal production value, now with ever less crumbs left to the producing individual?
Or is it just that you think concerned minds weren´t aware of the mere privilege of being alive?
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