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crooksj5

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navarro guitar string choice

Hello everyone I recently purchased a new navarro student negra flamenco. I realize string choice is very subjective but I was wondering if there were certain string brands that work well with this guitar? I like the strings that came on it but im not sure what they were. I normally play medium or hard tension by the way. If anyone has any personal experiences with these guitars I would love to hear them.

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Ramon Amira

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to crooksj5)

The Navarro student model comes with D’addario strings. I don’t think much of them. Try LaBella 2001 Flamenco medium tension bass set, paired with LaBella Rectified Nylon medium tension treble set. Strings by Mail sells both sets separately.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 19 2014 14:48:00

el carbonero

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to crooksj5)

Cheap guitar, cheap strings

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Leñador

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to el carbonero)

Why do you want to rain on people's parades?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 19 2014 19:29:11

Ramon Amira

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to el carbonero)

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Cheap guitar, cheap strings

Actually it is neither a cheap guitar nor cheap strings. The guitar is inexpensive, but it is a genuine luthier guitar made by Marlon Navarro, the equivalent of luthier guitars I have seen and played costing a lot more.

The strings are not “cheap strings” either. They are quality strings – I just don’t happen to like D’addario strings. Lots of other players do though.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 19 2014 22:02:25

beno

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to crooksj5)

hey carbonero, what guitar do You use, and what strings on it?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 20 2014 21:24:49

El Burro Flamencuro

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to crooksj5)

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Actually it is neither a cheap guitar nor cheap strings.

^ what he said. I also do not like D'addario strings(specifically pro arte)....they sound very dull and without character, especially the trebles are just plain garbage to me...but maybe some people would disagree with me....also i've heard they're fairly consistent and last a decent amount of time...maybe that's why people like them. i bought a set as replacement strings, in case i couldn't order my usual/have them on my guitar for a lesson....i couldn't stand the sound, threw them away and rushed to the store to buy my usual strings.

High quality strings can make any instrument sound good but especially on cheaper guitars. Not saying that a navarro is a cheap guitar either. It's definitely good that you're starting on(idk if you're new to flamenco or not) a good guitar like that....some of the cheaper guitars can hinder your ability to learn properly.

I too am in the process of searching for my set of flamenco strings, i just bought a flamenco guitar....in the process of shipping

But anyways back on topic now...
i have done some searching on the forum and a few people said that:

Savarez Corum high tension basses and Oasis Carbon GPX high tension trebles are a good match.

Another guy said the savarez corum new cristal 500cj's are pretty good and another commented that Luthier 20 basses last longer than savarez corum.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2014 1:21:31

beno

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to crooksj5)

hey carbonero, still waiting for Your reply...
pffffffff

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 24 2014 6:56:34

El Burro Flamencuro

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to crooksj5)

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Cheap guitar, cheap strings

^ what Beno said. These things don't just go away; you live or die by your word, let's see what you got.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 24 2014 8:23:21

Sr. Martins

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to El Burro Flamencuro)

Penis!

Penis!

Penis!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 24 2014 10:59:22

tijeretamiel

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to Sr. Martins)

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ORIGINAL: el carbonero

.....

My conde stay in tune more long time and more quickly than other.

The conde haters are so ridiculous ,because all the professional play conde
Is it not enough?

The conde haters insults the majority of flamenco profesional.

All and all are played or play conde ,inclued vicente amigo,before his reyes is played conde!

Now i invite all the people who critics conde,to play mine and to compare with your guitars, and drink a whisky for forget the big slap of my conde.

El Carbonero plays a Conde...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 24 2014 12:24:56

krichards

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to Ramon Amira)

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They are quality strings

They certainly are.

If your guitar doesn't sound good with D'addario Pro Arte, you should ask some questions of the guitar. Pro Arte are very good value, long lasting, consistent quality, and very hard to beat.

However, if you have a dead/dull sounding guitar you can brighten it up with something like Savarez Alliance or some other composites. But they are expensive.

If your Navarro is sounding sweet just stick with D'addarios

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 24 2014 14:53:52

Morante

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to tijeretamiel)

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El Carbonero plays a Conde...

Sounds like he is employed by Conde

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 24 2014 16:04:23

Blondie#2

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to krichards)

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ORIGINAL: krichards

quote:

They are quality strings

They certainly are.

If your guitar doesn't sound good with D'addario Pro Arte, you should ask some questions of the guitar. Pro Arte are very good value, long lasting, consistent quality, and very hard to beat.

However, if you have a dead/dull sounding guitar you can brighten it up with something like Savarez Alliance

Funnily enough, that's exactly what he uses...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 24 2014 16:22:10

krichards

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to Blondie#2)

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Funnily enough, that's exactly what he uses...

Who are you referring to? I can't find any reference to Savarez Alliance in this thread apart from my own mention of them. The Navarro has D'addario's apparently.
Unless I've missed something ?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 24 2014 16:38:32

El Burro Flamencuro

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to Sr. Martins)

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Penis!

Penis!

Penis!

Ok so Rui wasn't even in this argument, and he already showed us his 3 times. YOU LOSE carbonman, GOOD DAY SIR!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 24 2014 17:05:24

Leñador

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to crooksj5)

I love Dadarios, they feel plenty bright to me. Savarez make my guitar nearly sound tin canny, they sound fine in my buddies guitar though....

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Blondie#2

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to krichards)

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ORIGINAL: krichards

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Funnily enough, that's exactly what he uses...

Who are you referring to?

El Carbonero, the person who's post is being discussed.

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=159220&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=savarez%2Calliance&tmode=&smode=&s=#234176

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 24 2014 17:40:10

beno

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to crooksj5)

I have no other question. Everything is answered here LOL

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 24 2014 18:12:11

krichards

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to Blondie#2)

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El Carbonero, the person who's post is being discussed.

OK I get it now!
Very witty.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 24 2014 18:34:58

el carbonero

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to crooksj5)

what did you wait my reply?
For the strings?

For the treble i use the alliance savarez,sometimes the oasis gpx carbon,but last time the E broke and cut my hand with blood on my conde,so now i afraid of this strings.

The luthier carbon are too thin.

And the hense,galli hannabach ....carbon are sukkks.

The carbon line are good too.

For the bass ,i prefer savarez too(HT,corum,cantiga). but poor life.

The dr junger mysterion have long life,but boring and not really flamenco.

The aquila alchemia are interesting. but thin.

Now if you play navarro ,it's unnecessary to use very good strings.
the pro arte are ok .

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 26 2014 14:07:05

Morante

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to el carbonero)

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Now if you play navarro ,it's unnecessary to use very good strings.
the pro arte are ok .

Don´t criticize another person´s guitar, especially in this nasty underhand way: if he is happy then he must try different strings until he finds what suits. This applies to Yamaha, Alhambra, Conde, Gerundino, etc. Any guitar will respond to adequate strings.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 26 2014 16:21:31

Leñador

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to crooksj5)

Wouldn't a great guitar sound great with any strings and a bad guitar need good strings to sound better? Logically that makes more sense no?

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Sr. Martins

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to Leñador)

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Wouldn't a great guitar sound great with any strings and a bad guitar need good strings to sound better? Logically that makes more sense no?

That's the reason why I trust no guitar until I play it with old strings.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 26 2014 16:45:40

Morante

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to Leñador)

Any guitar will sound better with good strings. But each guitar responds in a different way. As a rule it has cost me almost a year with each guitar to find out which strings suit it best and please me. For example, I use a mixture of D´Addario and Luthier and I am a great advocate of the brown composite 3rd of D´Addarrio which some people hate

El libro de gustos es blanco.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 26 2014 16:47:31

FlamencoD

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to crooksj5)

I have a Navarro Concert Blanca Flamenco and have tried 8 or 9 different brands/types of strings on it. I started a thread somewhere, search my name. My favorites are the Felipe Conde Normal tension flamencos, and the Luthier Golds, medium tension. Currently I have Daddario Carbons on it and aren't crazy about them, I always go back to either the Conde or Luthier strings. They can both be found on stringsbymail.com.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 26 2014 22:58:24

el carbonero

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to FlamencoD)

Daddario carbon ??

What is the exact name of this strings?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 27 2014 13:54:40

escot

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to el carbonero)

I have a Navarro Concert as well and I'm finding the D'Addario EJ45C Pro Arte Composite Normal Tension strings to suite the guitar well. I also feel that they provide a bit more tension than the regular tension set of non composite. Gotta love that coffee colored g string!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 19 2014 11:07:08

ramon roman

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to crooksj5)

Crooks I have a Navarro like yours and I use D'Addario Pro Arte EJ46C They sound real good. I also have a Conde and I have it strung with Savarez Corum Alliance high tension and it sounds good also. I will probably string the Conde with D'addarios when the Savarezs break,but they are a long lived strings.
Suerte, Ramon

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 6 2014 17:56:11

Robug

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RE: navarro guitar string choice (in reply to crooksj5)

Colleagues, my favorite strings are Gallistrings Genius Titanio GR40 Hard. They are very responsive, bright, true pitch, and long lasting. They are perhaps a little more demanding physically (high tension) but, in my opinion, the best I have purchased.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 18 2014 16:05:54