RE: Grisha Goryachev

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kudo

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RE: Grisha Goryachev (in reply to Aretium)

i would like to see grishas original music..... i have seen all copies from him so far

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Chilli Fingers

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RE: Grisha Goryachev (in reply to kudo)

I think the word you are looking for is 'interpretations'. And very good interpretations. Sounds disrespectful using the word 'copies'....has a very negative undertone imo. But im sure you didn't mean it like that :)

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El Burro Flamencuro

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RE: Grisha Goryachev (in reply to kudo)

that sabicas influence coming through

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2014 9:19:16

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RE: Grisha Goryachev (in reply to kudo)

Of course, Grisha posts all that mechanical/robotic crap himself:

1. So that we'll all get gushing (and I can't even conceive the hyperbole to capture the grace of is playing in words).
2. Because that's probably what he thinks about himself.

When the rest of us are nursing our sore jaws he's getting at himself for some infinitesimal flaw.

Having been a (albeit s h i t e y) classical guitarist gone to the darkside I can feel the difference between 'my' 'techniques'. It seems impossible what Grisha does.

For me, he exists alongside great concert performers from the classical world.

The expectation that a proper flamenco guitarman should also be a composer is, to me, borderline insanity (even though it does seem that a lot of them are wonderful composers). Maybe Grisha is too. But let's let that be.

I'd like to see him take the great composers of 'flamenco' to broader audiences. And those robotics of his are telly-friendly.

Trafalgar, for example, must be one of the greatest pieces in the 'classical' repertoire. Hands up anyone who wouldn't want to play it.

Billed as a flamenco Grisha may be the real deal but billed as a classical player he has no peer.

Classical guitarists have whined about limited repertoire for years.

All of the famous stuff that we're familiar with is brand new to the vastness of the 'serious music' world.

And the idea of hearing that stuff alongside Bach and Barrios and the bumble bee in a concert is a very attractive proposition.

Look away Grisha: This guy is redefining things. Classical guitar needs him to shake it out of its torpor.

Anyway, as long as people are giving him 'ink' any ink will do.

Regular folks eat up super fast, powerful playing. Milk it.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2014 15:14:35

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RE: Grisha Goryachev (in reply to kudo)

Puffy shirt or poloneck. That is the only question.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2014 15:37:51

Miguel de Maria

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RE: Grisha Goryachev (in reply to Chilli Fingers)

social skills, some have them, some not so much.

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mark74

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RE: Grisha Goryachev (in reply to kudo)

maybe he'll cover one of your tunes

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2014 17:14:08

mark74

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RE: Grisha Goryachev (in reply to Lorenzo714)

"You would think think an Andalusian would be really excited to here someone from another country embrace their music. But unfortunately they are the ones who often criticize others who play their music as being unauthentic or lacking feeling simply because they cannot come up with anything else to criticize.....so sad . If people every where embraced all music as universal & these silly issues wouldn't exist."

I've noticed this exact thing and I don't get it. Why they would want flamenco to be a smaller club with less commercial potential I don't know, but it's not smart

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2014 17:17:26

Richard Jernigan

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RE: Grisha Goryachev (in reply to z6)

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ORIGINAL: z6

Look away Grisha: This guy is redefining things. Classical guitar needs him to shake it out of its torpor.

Grisha and Jeremy Mouffe are coming back to Austin on March 29, presented by the Austin Classical Guitar Society. I'm pretty sure a good part of the audience will be classical players.

http://www.austinclassicalguitar.org/index.php/concert-tickets/international-concert-series

I missed this past Saturday's ACGS concert, but the one before that by Les Frères Méduses was hardly conducive to torpor.

RNJ

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 21 2014 17:27:59

Mark2

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RE: Grisha Goryachev (in reply to z6)

No, it makes perfect sense, in the same way jazz musicians are expected to create their own solos. All the top flamenco soloists write their own stuff, and the time they spent accompanying singers and dancers helped them develop their own material. Surely just as jazz players learn solos of the masters, so do flamenco players. But flamenco players, like jazz players, are expected to have their own stuff too.
Not that I don't love Grisha's playing. I certainly do. I don't know how anyone who plays or loves the guitar could not appreciate his artistry.

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ORIGINAL: z6

The expectation that a proper flamenco guitarman should also be a composer is, to me, borderline insanity (even though it does seem that a lot of them are wonderful composers). Maybe Grisha is too. But let's let that be.