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Castelat

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From: The Hispanic Kingdoms

Latin American traditional music

Latin American traditional music

The origins of Latin music begins with Spain and Portugal's colonization of Latin America in the 16th century. Its music is mainly a mixed of Spanish and Native american origin and also African influence. Some of the rhythms date back to the colony, from old traditional/popular Spanish and Portuguese music from the XVII -XIII century.

Genre: Huapango
Country: Mexico

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Castelat

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to Castelat)

Genre: Valse
Country: Peru

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Castelat

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to Castelat)

Genre: Milonga
Country: Argentina

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Castelat

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to Castelat)

Genre: Milonga
Country: Uruguay

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Castelat

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to Castelat)

Genre: Huapango
Country: Mexico

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Castelat

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to Castelat)

Genre: Marinera
Country: Peru

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 28 2013 18:38:45

gerundino63

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to Castelat)

Good idea Castelrat!

First question,
Does anybody know more from this composer?
Domingo Semenzato, the writer from the choro: Divagando?

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mark74

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to Castelat)

Genre:Narcocorrido
Origin: Culiacan, Sinaloa or Los Angeles, California

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Castelat

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to Castelat)

Genre: Cueca
Country: Chile

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Castelat

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to Castelat)

Genre: Llanera
Country: Venezuela

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Castelat

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to Castelat)

Genre: Valse
Country: Peru

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Castelat

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to Castelat)

Genre: Chacarera
Country: Argentina

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 1 2014 23:27:12

Castelat

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to Castelat)

Genre: Huapango
Country: Mexico

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Castelat

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to Castelat)

Genre: Chacarera
Country: Bolivia

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Castelat

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to Castelat)

Genre: Gato
Country: Argentina

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 2 2014 2:28:28

Castelat

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to Castelat)

Genre: Galopera
Country: Paraguay

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Castelat

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to Castelat)

Genre: Contradanza
Country: Colombia

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 2 2014 3:20:02

guitarbuddha

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to Castelat)

I would like to recommend a fine book which I have enjoyed for the fifteen or so years since I bought it.

Jorge Cardoso's 24 South American Pieces.

http://www.musicroom.com/se/id_no/06954/details.html

It has examples in all of the styles mentioned (with the exception of those from Mexico) as well as many others. It was the original vehicle for the Venezuelan Waltz posted recently and also the more famous Milonga.

Although tab is not provided (the book would be very bulky if it was) if you enjoy reading music then this is the most compact and clear survey of the folkloric styles of South America of which I am aware. It is a must in any guitarist's library.

D.

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Miguel de Maria

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to Castelat)

Good call, D, that Milonga is a classic. A lot of those pieces were finger busters and probably beyond the average intermediate flamenco student if I recall correctly.

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guitarbuddha

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

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ORIGINAL: Miguel de Maria

A lot of those pieces were finger busters and probably beyond the average intermediate flamenco student if I recall correctly.

None too bad, I guess maybe the capo reccomendations helped them some. I only ever memorised the Samba (which I find a lot more interesting than the Jorge Morel one).

But a lot of the polyrhmic forms (Vals Venezuelan Polo and Vals,ecuadoran Pasillo and Albazo and columbian Valse Criollo, Bolivian Cueca etc etc) offer a nice way to study a lot of the rhythms and syncopations common to buleria within different guitar textures.

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 2 2014 15:43:20

Richard Jernigan

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to guitarbuddha)

This video of Cardoso is the only one I have seen of someone playing one of the Carlevaro style Manuel Contreras Sr. guitars. I am sure there may be others. Cardoso's guitar differs from the one I have played, and the one belonging to Carlevaro, in that it has a carved rosette over a conventionally located soundhole.

Carlevaro's instrument had no soundhole. The top was separated from the sides by a slot which allowed air to move into and out of the body. Here's Carlevaro's guitar, held by his student Cesar Amaro.

Before the Contreras shop at Calle Mayor 80 in Madrid closed, there was an autographed photo on the wall of Carlevaro holding this instrument.

RNJ

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guitarbuddha

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to Richard Jernigan)

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ORIGINAL: Richard Jernigan

it has a carved rosette over a conventionally located soundhole.

RNJ

I thought it was lute inspired but it sounded pretty much like a guitar (given the awful quality of the reproduction).

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 3 2014 0:01:58

Richard Jernigan

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to guitarbuddha)

I had read that the Carlevaro model had a lute-like tone, but I would describe the one I played as "quiet and tinny." Like Carlevaro's it had a slot around the edge of the top and no sound hole.

In contrast, my spruce/Brazilian Contreras Sr. doble tapa is loud and brilliant from bass to treble, though a little on the "cold" side compared to a couple of others.

RNJ

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 3 2014 18:38:01

C. Vega

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to Castelat)

Contreras made several (I have no idea how many) Carlevaro models with nicely executed but rather simple lute-style roses carved into the tops. I've seen them, at least in pictures, with both spruce and cedar tops. However, the roses are not open to the interior of the instrument. They have a solid backing behind them and the guitar still depends on the slot around the edge for air movement. The roses are purely decorative.

There used to be a couple of videos floating around of the Paraguay-based guitar hustler/shyster/teacher Renato Bellucci playing one with a cedar top and a rose. If anyone's interested in seeing them they can do a search for them.

Out of respect for his father, the late Pablo Contreras kept one on display in the shop (no rose, just a couple of simple rings of purfling and a small center inlay where the soundhole would normally be) along with a few other guitars made by Don Manuel but he told me that he personally never liked the sound of the Carlevaro model.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 3 2014 19:14:11

Richard Jernigan

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RE: Latin American traditional music (in reply to C. Vega)

Thanks for the correction, Charles. I had never seen one of the rosette models in person, only in pictures. I assumed incorrectly that the rosette covered a real soundhole.

RNJ

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