Diferences between Rumba and Tangos nowadays

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athrane77

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From: Reykjavik

Diferences between Rumba and Tangos ...

I just have discovered that my so called tangos composition is a rumba

(sorry for unclean sloppy playing)
But I have the impression that many guitarists switching between 1-3 rumba and 2-4 tangos groove.
I'm a bit confused now, I don't know how to make clear that my falseta or whatever is tangos and not rumba.
Is it possible to change that rumba falseta to tangos?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 6 2013 10:05:19

Flamencito

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RE: Diferences between Rumba and Tan... (in reply to athrane77)

Can't see the vid here at work. Would like to ask this anyway though:

Isn't tangos traditionally accented on 3 only?

and Rumba traditionally on (1), (2,5) & (4)?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 6 2013 10:48:56

mark indigo

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RE: Diferences between Rumba and Tan... (in reply to athrane77)

sounds like tangos to me....

I guess if the singer is singing tangos and you play that falseta then it's tangos, but if the singer is singing rumba and you play that falseta, then it's a rumba.... you might have to play it faster then though....

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 7 2013 21:28:53

El Kiko

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RE: Diferences between Rumba and Tan... (in reply to athrane77)

I would go with rumba myself ...mainly because of the harmony ....although there is no set rule ..I am hearing your falseta more as a IV - I,, thing (Minor) rather than semitone phrygian sound ....

thats all

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 7 2013 21:52:33

mark74

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RE: Diferences between Rumba and Tan... (in reply to mark indigo)

I agree with Mark Indigo, except for the speed part. Rumba can be slower and tangos faster, or vice versa if the tangos are lentos.

I constantly get confused, because the Spanish will often play rumbas with palmas and cajon from tangos as the rhythm section ( as opposed to the afro-cuban rhythms we usually hear with rumba)

Also I don't know if the cante part of tangos follow precise rules like some other forms...I intend to make a thread sometime to see if one of the resident experts can explain which palos follow precise rules for the vocal song structure.

Sounds pretty good Jof (except for the mic)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 8 2013 0:36:06

HolyEvil

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RE: Diferences between Rumba and Tan... (in reply to athrane77)

sounds like tangos to me mate =)
and a very nice sounding one too.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 17 2013 8:22:23

mark74

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RE: Diferences between Rumba and Tan... (in reply to athrane77)

I like your piece record some more of it

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 18 2013 2:38:35

machopicasso

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RE: Diferences between Rumba and Tan... (in reply to athrane77)

To me it sounds like a rumba. And it sounds like a rumba even before the falseta begins.

I don't see why you wouldn't be able to use that falseta within tangos, though. Perhaps you should try playing traditional tangos compas/chords and, once that's in place, insert the falseta but with the tangos rhythmic accents.

Nice falseta, by the way.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 18 2013 7:32:52