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guitarbuddha

 

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RE: Examples of good English. (in reply to BarkellWH

Here are some of my least favourite words in English.

'Because You're Worth It.'

If ever a more pervasive and disgusting attempt has been made to sever the link between value and cost I am at a loss to call it to mind.

Heaven forbid a woman should make a choice based on production cost and availability. Much better to encourage her to base her self worth on the amount of money she wastes conspicuously.

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guitarbuddha

 

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RE: Examples of good English. (in reply to guitarbuddha

Another two. Which is most ridiculous ?

'You too can be beautiful'

'Tired of the same old universe ?'

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Pgh_flamenco

 

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RE: Examples of good English. (in reply to guitarbuddha

"For as long as he can remember, John Hough has suffered from a poor memory."

This sentence certainly strains credulity...

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guitarbuddha

 

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RE: Examples of good English. (in reply to BarkellWH

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But if I could bring with me the works of two authors, my second choice would be Italo Calvino. Has anyone read Calvino's "If on a Winter's Night a Traveller"? It comes close to Borges in its exploration of the fabulous. Borges and Calvino are in a class of their own.

Cheers,

Bill


Thanks Bill. I will be on the lookout for Borges in the library.

My partner Lorna is much more widely read than I am and she recommended the Calvino to me ages ago. I started it off drunk one night and was quite enjoying it. But then I thought this is like one of those ten minute jokes where there is no punchline and the teller is digging his technique way too much.

It may have fallen victim to one of our annual clear outs but if it is still on the shelf I will let him yank my chain some more. But if he never gets round to a plot I'm blaming you.

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guitarbuddha

 

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RE: Examples of good English. (in reply to Pgh_flamenco

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This sentence certainly strains credulity...


Try saying that after a bee stings your tongue.


Nice one.

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guitarbuddha

 

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RE: Examples of good English. (in reply to guitarbuddha

I am actually amazed it has take this long to get to Pope.

One of the most often abused in its short form

"A little learning is a dangerous thing."

The longer excerpt

"A little learning is a dangerous thing. Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring; There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain; And drinking largely sobers us again."



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estebanana

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RE: Examples of good English. (in reply to guitarbuddha

Current academic usage of 'gender' and 'sex' probably comes from the differences in sound between Gender Politics and Sex Politics.

Many people in academia today are fixated on writing dissertations based on whether they have a penis, vagina or both, or a manufactured penis or vagina. Dept. of Gender Studies works better, as does a class syllabus, or reader titled Gender Politics Anthology as opposed to Sex Politics.

It's probably that simple.
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And now for some completely different English.

Anais Nin used the word 'sex' to describe as actual sexual organs, in the Delta of Venus stories. I won't give examples here as they are kind of "frisky" shall we say. You have to read her to see how she worked that out.

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RE: Examples of good English. (in reply to estebanana

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Anais Nin used the word 'sex' to describe as actual sexual organs, in the Delta of Venus stories.


Anais Nin and Henry Miller were literary companions and lovers. When I was young I devoured Henry Miller. At the time, he seemed to me to be the epitome of the avant garde writer and thinker. And at the time i think he was. Two things stand out in my mind about Henry Miller. The first is his book "The Colossus of Maroussi," in which he spent much of 1939 traveling and living in Greece, at the invitation of his friend Lawrence Durrell, who lived in Corfu. The "Colossus" in the title refers to their mutual traveling companion George Katsimbalis, a Greek who reminded me of Zorba the Greek.

The second thing that stands out is when I read "Tropic of Cancer." I recall a very funny incident when Miller moves to Paris. He meets a whore and stays with her in her Paris apartment. Miller is new to Europe and Paris, and he goes to the toilet in the whore's apartment. He has to defecate, and unknowingly defecates in her bidet. Of course, Miller, not knowing what a bidet is, thinks its a toilet. The whore returns to her apartment, sees what miller has done, and immediately kicks him out of her apartment. A very funny episode, as Miller describes it.

Cheers,

Bill

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RE: Examples of good English. (in reply to guitarbuddha

And they say the French are dirty.....

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Richard Jernigan

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RE: Examples of good English. (in reply to BarkellWH

I liked Miller's account of how he handled insurance salesmen. After quitting his job at the Cosmodemonic Telegraph Company (Western Union, where he was a manager) he stayed home and started writing full time.

A plague of insurance salesmen was visited upon him. For some reason he would invite them in, but he couldn't get rid of them.

At last he hit upon a solution. His writing desk faced a wall. Behind his writing chair he arranged 12 straight chairs in a semicircle. When an insurance salesman arrived, he would invite him in, seat him in one of the straight chairs, and assure him that his 12 disciples would arrive soon, for his daily lecture on the new religion.

No insurance salesman stayed longer than 5 minutes.

I am still puzzled why he invited them in at all. If I answer the doorbell and don't recognize the person, and there is no Postal Sevice, FedEx or UPS truck at the curb, I simply say, "No thanks," and shut the door before they can say anything. I never answer my landline phone. If it's important, they will leave a message.

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Miguel de Maria

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RE: Examples of good English. (in reply to BarkellWH

Bill,
you bring me back to Mrs. Harada's English Lit class in high school. She loved Borges and Calvino.

And, strangely, Marky Mark.

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Richard Jernigan

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RE: Examples of good English. (in reply to Miguel de Maria

I second the motion for Borges. I love him in Spanish and English both. He participated actively in the English translations of his works.

Some time in the 1960s he came to the University of Texas to study Old Norse with the resident expert. His interest in Germanic languages extended back to his English grandmother, and to his half-English father, who grew up speaking English at home.

Borges was invited to lecture by the University English department. I went to one of his talks. Borges had long been blind. He sat at a desk at the front of the room and spoke for an hour. His English was clear and perfect. He spoke with the terraced rhetorical nuance of a Spanish orator trained in the tradition that goes back to Cicero. You could hear in his voice the indentations of paragraphs and the outline of the talk. A totally fascinating performance.

Borges is the only "literary" figure I know of who incorporated an understanding and love for mathematics in his work. The title of one of his two most famous collections of short stories, "The Aleph" refers to aleph-naught, Cantor's notation for the cardinal number of the infinite set of natural numbers (positive integers), but Borges never makes that point explicitly in the work itself.

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RE: Examples of good English. (in reply to Richard Jernigan

Borges was a polymath whose interests encompassed everything from mathematics to esoteric pursuits such as the study of the Kabbala, and he incorporated his vast store of knowledge in his stories. His story "The Aleph" is a perfect example. The theme of "The Aleph," like that of several of his stories, is the infinite. While mathematics is one aspect, Borges casts a much wider net than just mathematics in entitling his work "The Aleph." He describes The Aleph in the story as being a point in space that contains all other points. Anyone who gazes into it can see everything in the universe from every angle simultaneously, without distortion, overlapping or confusion. Borges writes of the Aleph: "Universal space was contained inside it, with no diminution in size. Each thing was infinite things because I could clearly see it from every point in the cosmos."

Borges then incorporates in the story two observations regarding the Aleph: one regarding the nature of the Aleph; the other with respect to its name. Borges begins with the latter, noting that "aleph" is the first letter of the alphabet of the "sacred language" (Borges is referring to Hebrew). He notes that in the Kabbala the letter "aleph" signifies the "En Soph," the "pure and unlimited godhead." Regarding its nature, Borges states the aleph "is the symbol of the transfinite numbers, in which the whole is not greater than any of its parts."

Ever the scholar of esoteric knowledge, Borges finishes "The Aleph" with some historical observations that lend credence to various observations of the infinite. Among others, he recounts the story that in 1867 Richard F. Burton was the British Consul in Santos Brazil. (Note: this is true, Sir Richard Burton was one of the great explorers, linguists, and polymaths of the nineteenth century who did most of his work in the East, but was at the time noted the British Consul in Santos.) Borges continues: "In July of 1942, Pedro Henriquez Urena discovered a manuscript by Burton in a library in Santos, and in this manuscript Burton discussed the mirror attributed in the East to Iskandar dhu-al-Qarnayn (the Arabic name for Alexander the Great). In this glass, Burton said, the entire universe was reflected."

As I commented in an earlier post, Borges' stories incorporate themes involving the infinite, appearance vs. reality, labyrinths, infinite libraries and books, the doppelganger, mirrors, and occasionally gauchos and knifefighters thrown in for added interest. Borges may have been Argentine, but he belongs to the world, wherever there are readers who appreciate interesting tales told with great erudition.

Cheers,

Bill

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