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Best mic/pickup solution for concerts?
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Blondie#2
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RE: Best mic/pickup solution for con... (in reply to Ricardo)
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ORIGINAL: Ricardo They key is signal to noise ratio. When playing with others. You need most volume and control over sound with no feedback. Trade off is what we guitarists think is "natural" sound of guitar we want retained. NOT POSSIBLE. So it is a see saw and you must deal with that. either you play quiet venue or you deal with signal processing. Assuming you have good amp (more watts equal clarity not volume) and speaker horn and speaker position (sometimes monitors help, but not always necessary if you can hear it ok). AFter much time spent with venues and equipment here are best 3 options in order of VOLUME and control. We assume you have the best possible mixer/amp/speaker combo. Agree with general thrust of all this, but you are missing out a whole family of pick up types - soundboard transducers (SBT). These in turn can be used in addition to internal mic or under saddle transducer (UST) etc and mixed accordingly. K& K, Schertler, Pick up The world are examples of decent makes. I had a Pick up the World trio system installed in my Ricardo Sanchis (2 SBTs mounted under bridge plate internally plus ust) and I play in a duo with a guy who has guitars with a typical internal mic/ust blend system. He has a Baggs system in one (better than Fishman IMO) and a much more expensive high end system in another (DTAR). We play some very noisy environments - weddings with 100s of people, busking in busy town centres etc, and he can blend in a little mic before feedback - maybe 10%, but basically my system sounds way more 'natural'. Its a thick woody, warm sound, golpes crystal clear and loud, sounds like the guitar is being miked with a dynamic mic. Very dynamic and responsive, and I can dig in and play with no nasty piezo quack whatsover. Zero feedback. I go thru a Baggs PADI for EQ (and to invert the output signal which helps too) straight into PA. I've used all the setups in your list and have to say I'd put this at no.2, its not as good as miking up with condensers (which we do when we play concerts), but its the second best alternative I've heard/used.
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Date May 26 2013 8:00:16
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RE: Best mic/pickup solution for con... (in reply to Munin)
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I use a nueman km184 and a DPA 4099 If I need extra volume or signal/gain I use them both together The DPA at the 15th fret and the nueman pointed towards the bridge Works fine ...big sound.,,,minimal bleed I also have a Bartlett which is good for noisy gigs...( in need of repar at present, my own doing not a manufacturer fault) I think for condensers a preamp before the mixer channel is a bonus Pre sonus make good budget tube per amps... Avalon have also bought out a reasonably priced unit Imagine there's a heap of things out there..heard some great results also with dynamic mics, like ricardos suggestion...just never worked for me ....
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Date May 28 2013 13:51:40
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