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RE: Paco de Lucia's technique
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Miguel de Maria
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From: Phoenix, AZ
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RE: Paco de Lucia's technique (in reply to Jon Boyes)
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Yes, I corresponded briefly with Graf-Martinez about his picado method, which he would be quick to point out, is based on observations of top players, not something he invented. He explained that what he teaches in his book is what is actually done in Spain, and the reason he is so adamant about it is that he doesn't want his students to get a rude awakening when they go to study in Spain. He used to play picado differently, but changed when he was jamming there and noticed everyone played a lot louder and harder than him. As far as his actual technique, you should get his book or read his website. I'm not an expert on the level of Ricardo or Martinez, but I will say that there is more than one way to skin a cat. Just because Paco plays this way doesn't mean that you need to, or that everyone should. There have been great picado players for decades before Paco and there will be more after him. Also, you should always take any of this stuff with a grain of salt. Just because Graf-Martinez thinks he sees something, doesn't mean that is in fact the case. Or it may be. But when it comes down to it, no one can _teach_ you to play guitar--they can only coach you. I think the main things in picado is that you do have to play pretty hard, and you have to play near the bridge. You might want to experiment in the angle, or lack of,t hat you attack the strings. If you slice the string, you get a rounder tone, if you grab it from straight on, you get more bite. If you do that near the bridge, you get a very flamenco, very powerful tone, which incidentally requires some muscle to obtain. That bite and punch is probably more important than raw volume or strength. But you need to be careful because fingers can be fragile (mine are), and they don't necessarily recover from work as quickly as biceps or quads or pecs.
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Date Nov. 9 2005 15:34:40
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RE: Paco de Lucia's technique (in reply to Miguel de Maria)
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I have something to add regarding the PDL bent finger technique...It appears to be more efficient than the classical straight fingers method in regards to switching in and out of Picado to arpeggios parts? The bent PDL fingers only have to open a bit to become "arpeggio fingers" and vice versa whereas the straight classical picado fingers need to bend more become "arpeggio fingers" and then vice versa these "arpeggio fingers" need fully straighten. I'd say there is more motion involved using the classical picado. What do you think?
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Date Nov. 28 2005 22:40:59
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RE: Paco de Lucia's technique (in reply to Ricardo)
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Ricardo, Thanks for your comments; I have seen your videos and think your playing is awesome. I haven't been playing very many years, however I do have experience in sports and I feel that the two things I look for in terms of technique is efficiency and effectiveness and for me Paco's technique embodies those two things the most than any other player I have seen so far. I have all the encuentro videos except the Serrano and Manolo Franco and have the Rito & Geo toque tapes not to mention a bunch of TVE stuff. Paco's technique is so efficient and effective, he only has to adjust a bit to move onto the next required technique. Obviously his technique can only take him so far in itself, precision, timing, control all those things need to be there too. However his technique makes implementing those things a bit easier IMO at least from a strictly biomechanical point of view than those who have a less efficient technique.
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Date Nov. 30 2005 15:40:07
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John O.
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Joined: Dec. 16 2005
From: Seeheim-Jugenheim, Germany
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RE: Paco de Lucia's technique (in reply to Guest)
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Wow, this thread's hot. Every hand is different and I would say it's never good to play exactly the way any other musician does because it worked for that musician. People all walk, talk, write, think and play differently (within certain boundries, of course) because each person has to individually make it work for them. Just think of all the angles in your body from the length of your legs impacting how you sit and hold the guitar all the way up to your arm, your hand with all those little precisely set bones on the back leading up to your fingers with all the nerves, thickness of muscle and bone, nail strength, dammit even the way the nails protrude over the tips of your fingers. All individual! How could you possibly play exactly like him and get the same results??? Can't be done. You'll never hear a very good and fast guitarist say "Well I just did what Paco did, it was easy, look!..." The trick is to not try to play the technique like him, only to play it as fast! It'd be easy to play it like him really slow though, I'm sure I'll bet the trick here would be not just to play the way he does, but to put in the hours he did. Yes, I'm afraid it's the truth. My picado's not the best but one thing I'll tell you about technique in general: if you notice a certain technique feeling comfortable and working very well for you, DO NOT throw it away because anybody tells you it's wrong or because you think it might be wrong unless there's a logical reason why. This is how I learned alzapua 3 times only to go back to the way I started...
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Date Apr. 21 2006 19:39:58
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