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Alain Moisan

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

Very nice touche Anders. What is it, white oak?

Such flamed Ovangkol is killer. I once got my hands on a board that was big enough for only two guitars. I made a demo out of it. After seeing that demo, about one out of two customers whould choose it if I had any left!

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Anders Eliasson

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Alain Moisan)

The bindings are Grewillia Robusta and has nothing to do with oak but they call it silver oak.
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=221261&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

Its a bit on the soft side forbindings, but I felt like doing something special, and I like its figuring together with the flamed Ovangkol.
I know its not everyones taste, but the guitar is not for everyone anyways.

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TANúñez

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

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I just dont like those white plastic bindings they put on expensive factory guitars.

My Martin has those bindings. I like the choice of wood you used also because it's not so white. It's going to look great under the finish.

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TANúñez

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

I have a nice set of flamed Ovangkil I'm waiting to use on a steel string too. I like the tone out of this wood.

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Alain Moisan

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

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ORIGINAL: Anders Eliasson

The bindings are Grewillia Robusta and has nothing to do with oak but they call it silver oak.
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=221261&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

Ah, yes. I remember seeing that thread.

It looks a lot like american sycamore (Platanus occidentalis) with which I made many flamencas.

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Anders Eliasson

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Alain Moisan)

3 x pegsy ready to be French Polished.

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rogeliocan

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

nice guitars.
That 1st picture is beautiful. Very very nice.

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RTC

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

Nice, can't wait to hear you play one of them. How about a Zambra!

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daffeey

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

Anders -

Those look sweet ~

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Anders Eliasson

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to rogeliocan)

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That 1st picture is beautiful. Very very nice.

Yes, but there´s a "problem" if you analyze the photo. The texture and colors of bench are way more interesting than those of the guitars. This brings focus on the bench and not the guitars. Thats why photos of finished guitars (and other things for sale) are normally taken with a neutral background. But I agree, there´s a nice smell and aire in the photo. You could say that its a nice photo of a bench made interesting by those guitars in the foreground.

I dont think I´ll be playing any of these. they are all sold and I dont play the guitar anymore.

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RTC

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

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dont think I´ll be playing any of these. they are all sold and I dont play the guitar anymore.

I am sad to read, Anders.
For whatever is worth, I found your playing with lots of "aire", It is special when you played the great instruments you build.
I will always admire your work, and will continue to listen to some of your videos that you had recorded in the past.
I am hopeful that you will play again, when the time is right for you.
Like always best wishes!

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Tom Blackshear

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

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ORIGINAL: Anders Eliasson

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That 1st picture is beautiful. Very very nice.

I dont think I´ll be playing any of these. they are all sold and I dont play the guitar anymore.

I've always enjoyed you playing the new guitars and I hope you keep up with your technique by performing for the list members....the guitars look good.

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Anders Eliasson

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Alain Moisan)

Thanks both of you, but as I´ve written various times, my left hand middle finger doesnt want me to play flamenco. after 10 - 15 minuts it simply says stop!!!
Then i prefer not to play flamenco at all. Its to depressing to slowly watch you tecnique and whole playing degenerate. Then I prefer to stop playing.
Fortunately, I can play the violin, which is a lot softer on the fingers.

Maybe I´ll try again with the guitar after summer... But its been more than a year now without playing and there´s no signs of my finger getting better.
The only thing I could do is to stop building, because I´m 99% sure the problem comes from that activity.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 27 2013 7:31:09

Tom Blackshear

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

I had a similar problem on the same finger of my left hand and I finally took a product for arthritis that had a long chain fatty acid from a rain forest nutmeg plant and it cured it in about 30 days. I think it had what is called :

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I wish you all the best, my friend and I hope you go from strength to strength through out all your days; even in this art, if you so choose.

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Anders Eliasson

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Alain Moisan)

Thanks Tom

I´ve saved the link and I will have a look at it when I´m in the mood for that.

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Anders Eliasson

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Alain Moisan)

#105, a steel stringer ready to be finished.

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Andy Culpepper

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Alain Moisan)

Beautiful guitars Anders. What finish are you going to put on the steel string?

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Anders Eliasson

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Alain Moisan)

I think I will use Nitro lacquer. I´ve never done that and it would be nice to try and learn.
That is THE traditional steelstring finishing.

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TANúñez

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

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I think I will use Nitro lacquer. I´ve never done that and it would be nice to try and learn.
That is THE traditional steelstring finishing.

Be sure to wear a respirator. This is harmful stuff. I'm sure you know this.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 10 2013 12:18:58

Anders Eliasson

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Be sure to wear a respirator. This is harmful stuff. I'm sure you know this.

Of course.

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beno

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Alain Moisan)

Those 3 are pure beauty Anders! Congratulations!

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ralexander

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Alain Moisan)

Very nice looking steel string, Anders - the shape is very attractive. I wish I could have the chance to give it a test drive.

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Andy Culpepper

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

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I think I will use Nitro lacquer. I´ve never done that and it would be nice to try and learn.
That is THE traditional steelstring finishing.

I think Martins were originally French polished no? (and presumably most other makes from that era)
A friend of mine who makes steel strings has been raving about Tru-Oil and how easy it is.

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Blair Russell

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Alain Moisan)

Tru-oil is extremely easy to apply and looks good for steel string guitars. I think French polish is the best finish though, nitro looks decent but doesn't feel or smell nice and you need a spray gun+ air extraction to do it safely (even then it's still bad for the environment).

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Jeff Highland

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Alain Moisan)

By the Classic era for Martin (1930's)They were Nitro finish
I have used Tru Oil but was not real keen
Mostly I use nitro or FP now
I quite like steel strings in FP either totally or nitro B and S

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TANúñez

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

I keep coming back to look at this steel string. It's beautiful Anders.

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Anders Eliasson

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Alain Moisan)

Thanks all of you. I hope it´ll sound as good as it looks.
I´ll make some photos when its finished.

I´ve been French Polishing all my guitars so far and its a good finish, but I must admit that I dont like the religious following that it has. Its just a finish and long as a finish is not to thick, the important part of the guitar is below the finish.

I dont like the feel of plastic finishes and they often have this bluish hue that i dont like. And some factory waterbased finishes are dorectly uggly. Its looks like they are covered in plastic.
The prettyest IMO is a French Polish that has NOT been polished up to total shine. Its glossy in a silky way and it makes the wood looks very nice and woody at the same time.

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Leñador

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RE: "Luthiers share your creati... (in reply to Alain Moisan)

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I dont like the feel of plastic finishes and they often have this bluish hue that i dont like. And some factory waterbased finishes are dorectly uggly. Its looks like they are covered in plastic.
The prettyest IMO is a French Polish that has NOT been polished up to total shine. Its glossy in a silky way and it makes the wood looks very nice and woody at the same time.

Completely agree, I don't if it's because that's the trend in my industry but I'm not really a fan of high gloss anything..........Let wood be wood, it's beautiful.

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ORIGINAL: nealf

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The prettyest IMO is a French Polish that has NOT been polished up to total shine. Its glossy in a silky way and it makes the wood looks very nice and woody at the same time.

I'm having a hard time understanding this .... iany photo of a guitar with finish that has not been polished?

Its called "mat" or "satin finish". Tacoma finish some of theirs that way.

Feels much better to the skin. Specially for the LH thumb.

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Anders,

Your guitars are getting ever prettier looking all around. And I like your rosettes.

It is saddening to read of your halted paying. It would be such a shame if all that skill was to fade.
I sincerely hope the product Tom recommended may help you just as well as it did for him.
Don´t be lazy with aquiring it.

Ruphus

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