RE: how to create a falseta

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guitarbuddha

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RE: how to create a falseta (in reply to Richard Jernigan)

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ORIGINAL: Richard Jernigan

We are watching. Nothing escapes our notice. Soon....

RNJ

Thats the spirit Richard

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Florian

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RE: how to create a falseta (in reply to Doitsujin)

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Ok and now a nasty comment..but facing truth often hurts..but I think everybody should face it. Otherwise no progress possible.

Beginners should not create because they simply couldn't play anything enjoyable anyways.., I saw a lot of beginners composing (outside the foro)..and it was never good. They make you lie, to tell em..ah..its..oookayy.. but in reality they suck. And this is why I even don´t like it when some beginner comes up with .."hey I composed xy..listen". Because I could either tell em..guy..stop it..ear bleeding alarm...or I have to lie. I dislike both scenarios. Beginners shoud only focus on studying existing stuff. And perfect-ionize techniques before composing.

hahah, you re all heart Doit the way you spare their feelings ...but now your cover is blown

Makes me think of that movie Liar Liar where the guy gets cursed and cant lie anymore and tells everyone the truth

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2013 3:29:00

estebanana

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RE: how to create a falseta (in reply to guitarbuddha)

OH WOW!!!!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2013 3:40:35

hamia

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RE: how to create a falseta (in reply to bursche)

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ORIGINAL: bursche

Highlander theme will give a good seguiriya

All falsetas derived from Highlander end up sounding the same for some reason.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2013 3:40:52

Elie

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RE: how to create a falseta (in reply to guitarbuddha)

- Create a nice melody (your musical skills should help)

- Make that melody fit into a flamenco compas (your flamencoish skills should help)

tada!! you've just created a falseta

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2013 6:55:03

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RE: how to create a falseta (in reply to fxarzad)

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Doitsujin

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RE: how to create a falseta (in reply to estebanana)

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You just went up in rank to First Field Lieutenant. Excellent.

:)) hehehe Cool!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2013 21:57:25

Doitsujin

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RE: how to create a falseta (in reply to Elie)

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- Create a nice melody (your musical skills should help)

- Make that melody fit into a flamenco compas (your flamencoish skills should help)

tada!! you've just created a falseta

Ok guys! Open a new thread!! "How to create a GOOD falseta!" :P

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2013 22:04:55

Erik van Goch

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RE: how to create a falseta (in reply to britguy)

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ORIGINAL: britguy

Let's face it; does a virtuoso flamenco guitarist really sit down just to deliberatley 'compose' a falseta. I don't know, but I doubt it.

I'm pretty sure they do because you simply can't fill a record (or a concert hall) with well composed music if you just depend on spontaneous happy accidents. Only a few of the falsetas i composed were the result of a happy accident. Most are the result of just sitting down with the intention to create, avoiding the normal tracks and really surging for a spark that leads to a new idea. When you find that spark the falseta creates itself instantly, but finding that spark more often then not is the result of intentional surging. Sometimes that intentional surging is triggered by personal ambition but it can also be triggered by outside demands. I frequently had to compose intros, escobillas and falsetas fitting the new material of singers and dancers i was working with and i also had to compose various things for my exams. But even when i just did it for myself most of the time it was done intentionally.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 24 2013 2:25:32

Richard Jernigan

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RE: how to create a falseta (in reply to britguy)

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ORIGINAL: britguy

Let's face it; does a virtuoso flamenco guitarist really sit down just to deliberatley 'compose' a falseta. I don't know, but I doubt it.

There's a sequence in the video "Francisco Sanchez--Paco de Lucia" showing Paco, guitar in hand, working on a falseta for a new recording. Admittedly it is staged for TV, but Paco says the video is meant to give some insight into the person behind the legend.

RNJ

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 24 2013 11:22:16

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 24 2013 12:57:07

Sr. Martins

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RE: how to create a falseta (in reply to guitarbuddha)

Guys, you're all overthinking this. You should follow my method:

1 - Get a glimpse of an idea for a melody over a rhythmic pattern
2 - Develop it a bit until you have 12 beats of that stuff
3 - Polish it and realize that maybe that thing doesnt work
4 - Care to ask "why it works/doesnt work" by posting a tab of your falseta

5 - Ricardo will then take over the situation and make a kick ass video with your ****ty falseta and present you with a few options.

6 - Go back to playing standard falsetas and pick another style (not flamenco) whenever you feel your creative juices running.

True Story.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 8 2013 1:30:56

mark74

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RE: how to create a falseta (in reply to guitarbuddha)

I thought most falsetas were the result of improvisation utilizing the building blocks one already has as Ricardo alluded to...that seems pretty fundamental to any folk-based tradition.

As Doitjdun(?) pointed out one's technique would have to be pretty solid to produce a good sounding falseta ..and thats true really regardless if one composes it or interprets it, but to compose something that requires all the dexterity and subtle touches required in flamenco one has to have a good foundation to pull it off well.

To answer the OP's question more directly though, it seems like jazz chords are a source of inspiration and chord progresssions from Spanish ballads are also a source of inspiration for some modern guitarists

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 9 2013 6:47:35