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 RE: Spanish alcoholic beverages (in reply to Richard Jernigan)
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That is a cruel game indeed
Have never drunk tequila since I was one with the worm
Proceed with caution
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Drinking game:
Stand in a circle, pass around a bottle of mescal. Everyone takes a swig. Person with the last swig has to eat the maguey worm.
RNJ
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Date Jan. 23 2013 13:36:34
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Richard Jernigan
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From: Austin, Texas USA
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RE: Spanish alcoholic beverages (in reply to Richard Jernigan)
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A mescal story.
My father owned some serivce stations and other businesses in San Antonio, Texas. After I was drafted into the Army, but before I reported for duty, he had a heart attack, so I ended up running his business affairs for about 2 1/2 months.
Frank and Shorty worked at one of the stations. Frank was tall, hefty, and light brown. He was the mechanic. All the little old ladies in the neighborhood trusted their cars to Frank. Shorty was short, wiry and dark, and quite the ladies' man. Of a nervous disposition, upon hearing a loud noise, Shorty tended to crouch down behind large solid objects.
One day I overheard Frank taking Shorty to task. "if you keep on staying at that woman's house, you're going to end up with a common law wife." In the USA, if you cohabit, and present yourselves as husband and wife for a certain period, you are automatically married.
"No, sir," replied Shorty. "I keep half my clothes at Mary's house and half of them at Eileen's. i spend half the time with Mary and half the time with Eileen. The's no such thing as common law bigamy."
One Monday Shorty called in sick. I don't remember it happening before. The next day he called in sick again. It put a strain on Frank, doing mechanic work and waiting on customers. On Wednesday Shorty showed up. looking a bit worse for wear. "So what was wrong with you?" I asked.
"i was at this party on Sunday. They were drinking some funny kind of whiskey. I was drinking it, too. Then I saw there was a worm in the bottle. When I saw that worm, I started felling sick. I was sick for two days. I'm never drinking any of that stuff again."
RNJ
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Date Jan. 23 2013 14:40:58
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Richard Jernigan
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From: Austin, Texas USA
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RE: Spanish alcoholic beverages (in reply to Ricardo)
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Well, it was opened by my father in the 80's or 90's I don't even know. I found it in my mom's basement bar and took it home not long ago. Probably he did some shots with friends and nobody liked it. I just had a small shot, it has a charcoal-y flavor...but not bad taste. We shall see if I die or not...will inform.
Ricardo
Tequila and mescal are both made from the piña of the maguey plant-- the heart of the mature blue agave. "Tequila" is a denominacion controlada. It can only be made in a certain area by an approved method, though there are rumors of fraud to meet the high demand.
For Tequila the agave is roasted or steamed in an oven. The juice is pressed out, fermented and distilled. For mescal the agave is buried in the ground with the embers of a wood or charcoal fire, giving the booze a variety of funky flavors, depending on the exact process. The Tequila sold in the USA is mainly made by large industrialized operations. I don't think I have ever bought any mescal in the USA. A lot of it in Oaxaca, Mexico is from small cottage industry operations.
Your promise to let us know if you die reminds me of my favorite opening passage of all time, from "Epitaph of a Small Winner" by the Brazilian Machado de Assis.
"I am writing as a posthumous author. Not as one who has written and then died, but as one who has died and is now writing. In certain respects, death alters one's point of view."
RNJ
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Date Jan. 24 2013 3:10:22
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estebanana
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RE: Spanish alcoholic beverages (in reply to Ricardo)
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I was in Antigua Guatemala, (there's Guatemala and Guatepeor, this was only mala) there is a bar called Cafe' No Se'. How long I was there, no se'.
No Se' because the next day you can't find it again or remember you were there. Someone asks what you did last night the inevitable answer is, no se'. One of the reasons you would not remember is because they had special back room that was a Mescal only bar, You were not allowed to hang out in there unless you were drinking mescal, beer chasers allowed. You also had to be invited by or liked enough by the curmudgeon old bartender who was in his early 80's. I think his name was Bert, American expat, grumpy as the day is long.
I looked up Cafe' No Se' on the internet a few months back and found, well, the old grumpus had past away. He was a going machine, drank like fish a smoked while bartending. He drank Mescal while he worked.
It was like a mescal boutique, the owners of CNS would travel up to Mexico to buy Mescal and they brought back small homemade batches they thought would not kill you, well they would kill you, but you would not always die.
So when you speak of writers who are dead, but not really killed yet I know what the mean. Are you dead or just taking up space at the bar? No se'.
Here is the URL, http://www.cafenose.com/
If you're ever in Guate stop by Cafe; No Se', it's a truly disfuctional piece of crap you could like. When I was there is was much, much grittier, they cleaned up a lot.
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Date Jan. 24 2013 3:41:40
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BarkellWH
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RE: Spanish alcoholic beverages (in reply to Richard Jernigan)
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Your promise to let us know if you die reminds me of my favorite opening passage of all time, from "Epitaph of a Small Winner" by the Brazilian Machado de Assis.
"I am writing as a posthumous author. Not as one who has written and then died, but as one who has died and is now writing. In certain respects, death alters one's point of view."
That is a good one, Richard. One of my favorite opening lines is that of Gabriel Garcia Marquez's in "One Hundred Years of Solitude."
"Many years later, as he faced the firing squad, Colonel Aureliano Buendia was to remember that distant afternoon when his father took him to discover ice."
Cheers,
Bill
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Who tried to hustle the East."
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Date Jan. 24 2013 13:15:07
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estebanana
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RE: Spanish alcoholic beverages (in reply to Leñador)
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Looks like it, that place looks pretty hip actually. Maybe I gotta make it down to Guatamala.........
It may be a bit too hipsterish by now, but 8 years ago it was an almost wild place. It is certainly a destination.
Antigua is a weird place, it's not really real. It's like Fantasy Island for the college student/tourist. Funny that Antigua looks dusty and earthen colored from the stone paved streets. It is city ordinance posturing to make it retain that colonial feeling. The buildings are all painted in matted sheen paints made from lime. The colors are preselected under a historical code.
But when you go into a building that is tall on a hill near the edge of town you get a vista out a window, or climb the stairs to the roof top lounge of a certain bar, you can see out over the city. Antigua is lush and verdant, trees abound in closed court yards not visible from street level because of high historic edifices and massive closed wooded doors which hang flush with the walls of the buildings. The city green and wet from high up, but dusty and plain on the cobble stones. It's fascinating extreme study in public and private space. Very desert like.
The mix of invented historical revival and actual historical ruins reminds me of a copy of a Torres guitar. When you see the artifice you wonder why it has to remain, but then you remember that people like to buy artifice. Antigua is like a Disneyland of Spanish colonial architecture, ( except for the real ruins out side of town) a simulation in which if you place yourself in just the right spot and drink just enough mescal you can see your self as a conquistador and fall into a pileta.
There is also a house that was bought and restored by an American horticulturalist who worked for United Fruit. Oh My, you would want live there. It was the former residence of the Spanish Governors and it has the original 17th century kitchen and plumbing. King Charles of Spain the one who Goya often painted was an amateur plumber, plumbing was his "hobby". In this house you can see why, plumbing without out modern pipes is artistic engineering.
Antigua, worth a few days or weeks, but don't maroon yourself long enough to become a known regular at No Se'. Trouble.
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Date Jan. 24 2013 17:54:36
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BarkellWH
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RE: Spanish alcoholic beverages (in reply to Richard Jernigan)
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I'm a big fan of Gabriel Garcia Marquez. Do you know the collection of short stories, "No One Writes to the Colonel" and the novel "Love in the Time of Chiolera"?
Garcia lived in Mexico for quite a whilie, in a remote town in the western tierra caliente.
Yes, and yes. My favorite by Gabriel Garcia Marquez is a novella entitled, "Chronical of a Death Foretold." Great writing and a great story.
Apropos of nothing, I am in New York City for two days attending one of the world's top squash tournaments, The Tournament of Champions. All the world's best squash players are here, and the level of play is amazing.
Cheers,
Bill
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And the end of the fight is a tombstone white,
With the name of the late deceased,
And the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here,
Who tried to hustle the East."
--Rudyard Kipling
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Date Jan. 25 2013 12:52:50
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Pedoviejo
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RE: Spanish alcoholic beverages (in reply to Aretium)
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Everyone seems to have gotten off on a tangent about Manzanilla. If it is very pale straw colored and in a sherry glass, okay, either fino or Manzanilla (which is just a fino produced down in Sanlucar by the sea). But if it is colorless, and, generally, not in a sherry glass, "aguardiente" is a general name, but more specifically, it is anis - very flamenco, anis, either seco (dry) or dulce (sweet), but the seco is what rocks the boat. Much more potent than Manzanilla, which, if ordered in Madrid, much more often meant chamomile tea rather than a type of sherry. There were several brands, such as Anis del Mono and La Navareña (or was it La Asturiana? memory fails), but Anis de Chinchón was by far the most popular, and that would be my bet for what Paco was drinking. It certainly was the "trago" of choice for the flamencos in the Bar el Cid that used to be across the street from the tablao Torres Bermejas back when Camarón was still singing there. (It’s also the bar where Paco and Camarón first met, and where I first met Juan Maya.) Between shows the artists would come across the street and belly up to the bar. “Chinchón. Seco,” they’d tell the bartender, then walk the glass over to the pinball machine where they’d rack up quite a few “free” games before going back over to the tablao. Along with all that black tobacco, I think it contributed to a great “rajo” voice. Also put some lead in the guitarist’s pulgar.
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