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Is Diego Del Morao the most influential guitarist today?
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Bulerias2005
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 RE: Is Diego Del Morao the most infl... (in reply to tburke)
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I'm totally unmoved by the albums that have been released in the past year or so, particularly Dani's CD. The playing is technically incredible and very adventurous, but compositionally it's very...meandering, for lack of a better word. I don't know. I realize that it's incredibly complex music, and I love that as much as the next guy, but I personally can see a clear line between "complex yet beautiful" and "complex for the sake of complexity". An example of the former is Antonio Rey's first CD. Ground-breaking, compositionally dense, harmonically interesting, and melodic. Truly incredible work. Nunez's new CD, technique limitations aside, was also in the same vein (although less so compared to the younger guys). I'm hoping that this compositional noodling is just a trend that will pass soon. I know that this is probably not a very popular opinion, but just my two cents. :)
P.S. Thanks for the shout-out chester. :) I have definitely been influenced by Myrddin's playing, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Some may actually argue that his style is meandering, but I don't think that's a very fair assessment since he borrows a lot from baroque/renaissance music, which is inherently melodically complex.
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Date Dec. 1 2012 2:53:58
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Munin
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RE: Is Diego Del Morao the most infl... (in reply to Bulerias2005)
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ORIGINAL: Bulerias2005
I'm totally unmoved by the albums that have been released in the past year or so, particularly Dani's CD. The playing is technically incredible and very adventurous, but compositionally it's very...meandering, for lack of a better word. I don't know. I realize that it's incredibly complex music, and I love that as much as the next guy, but I personally can see a clear line between "complex yet beautiful" and "complex for the sake of complexity". An example of the former is Antonio Rey's first CD. Ground-breaking, compositionally dense, harmonically interesting, and melodic. Truly incredible work. Nunez's new CD, technique limitations aside, was also in the same vein (although less so compared to the younger guys). I'm hoping that this compositional noodling is just a trend that will pass soon. I know that this is probably not a very popular opinion, but just my two cents. :)
P.S. Thanks for the shout-out chester. :) I have definitely been influenced by Myrddin's playing, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Some may actually argue that his style is meandering, but I don't think that's a very fair assessment since he borrows a lot from baroque/renaissance music, which is inherently melodically complex.
Fully agreed. I hope that these guys are just testing their limits at this point and will mature compositionally on the albums that follow.
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Date Dec. 1 2012 14:00:34
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Bulerias2005
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RE: Is Diego Del Morao the most infl... (in reply to kudo)
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I hope that these guys are just testing their limits at this point and will mature compositionally on the albums that follow.
just because you dont click with it, doesnt mean their compositions are immature and that they are testing their limits. lets see what your limits are and your mature compositions...if you can, that is
Well, that's the thing. Personally speaking -- having explored Russian, Brazilian, Spanish, French, jazz and who knows what other type of music -- I can usually identify compositional influences correctly. Listening to these modern cats, it is pretty obvious that they grew up on Paco de Lucia and developed their own music in a very flamenco-centric bubble. The hallmark of "modern flamenco" is the amalgamation of traditional flamenco and other genres (primarily jazz, classical, and Brazilian music). This new wave of flamenco is obviously influenced by their immediate predecessors such as Paco de Lucia, Gerardo Nunez, Vicente Amigo, Tomatito, etc, but it is obvious that these younger guys also have a very fleeting and superficial knowledge of the aforementioned non-flamenco genres, **unlike** their predecessors. This leads to a very homogeneous, self-contained, and ultimately compositionally-meandering style, which is what I believe Munin was alluding to. And I agree 100%. I can't tell these guys apart in terms of their compositions.
With a guy like Myrddin, I immediately identified that his influences were baroque/classical/renaissance music. So it was hardly a surprise to me when I saw all of his Bach videos on YouTube. He has studied such composers in an in-depth manner, and it is reflected in his compositions. This is what these new guys lack, in my opinion.
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Date Dec. 1 2012 23:06:18
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