Luthier 20 vs D'addario EJ45

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tele

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Luthier 20 vs D'addario EJ45

Hi,

what would be the difference between luthier 20 and d'addario ej45 strings in tone, longevity and tension?

I am currently using the luthiers and I feel like the treble strings would need a bit more sustain(la sonanta site specifies also these as low sustain trebles)

Other suggestions on which strings to try instead of the luthiers are welcome.

Thanks

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 13 2012 15:40:48

tele

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RE: Luthier 20 vs D'addario EJ45 (in reply to tele)

OK so I swapped the trebles to E and B d'addario ej45 and G string hi tension savarez alliance "carbon" string and now the guitar sounds much better and more lively than with the luthier trebles. I left the luthier basses for now, but will swap them later on with daddarios after they wear out.

The G string obviously is often somewhat dull on many string sets and I can recommend trying "carbon" strings if you feel like you could use more "lively and bright" string.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 14 2012 15:43:08

Ricardo

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RE: Luthier 20 vs D'addario EJ45 (in reply to tele)

It all depends on the guitar. Normally I find Daddarios bland tone wise. Luthiers always brighter to me on any guitar though. And the wacky 3rd strings I'll never understand. To me the different tone of normal 3rd string is an important character of the guitar's voice...especially in flamenco when we work out fingerings for falsetas.

Different guitars like different strings. I always found Labella 820's had what Ive been after soundwise, but not every guitar I own responds the same to em.

Ricardo

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 14 2012 15:50:33

BarkellWH

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RE: Luthier 20 vs D'addario EJ45 (in reply to Ricardo)

quote:

Luthiers always brighter to me on any guitar though.

I agree with Ricardo. I have a Gerundino Fernandez and a Manuel Adalid (both blancas), and use Luthiers on both. They produce a brighter tone than others I have tried.

Cheers,

Bill

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 14 2012 17:17:02

Escribano

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RE: Luthier 20 vs D'addario EJ45 (in reply to BarkellWH)

Whereas I am a fan of the dryer sound of old EJ45s on a peg-head blanca.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 14 2012 17:37:08

tele

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RE: Luthier 20 vs D'addario EJ45 (in reply to Escribano)

I just checked the intonation on the savarez carbon and it was flat... I suppose I'll swap it back to the luthier... Next I have la bella's 820b on my string test list.

EDIT: I swapped back the luthier and it intonates OK. I guess I'll just stick to standard strings then...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 14 2012 17:39:40

stephen hill

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RE: Luthier 20 vs D'addario EJ45 (in reply to tele)

The intonation on carbons is always flatter than nylon, causes no end of problems swopping between nylon and carbon!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 18 2012 7:45:27

tele

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RE: Luthier 20 vs D'addario EJ45 (in reply to stephen hill)

OK so I swapped the luthier trebles to med tension savarez new cristal and they sound much better and sustain longer, even intonate perfectly! What surprised me also is that they sounded good the moment I installed them. If you use luthier trebles, I recommend trying new cristal trebles instead. For me they sound much better.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 24 2012 13:25:58