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kudo
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 RE: I don't play Flamenco (in reply to Doitsujin)
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99.9% of the people who try, fail at flamenco. That means you will probably fail.
 im laughing because it has a lot of truth in it, yet at the same time 99.9% seems high enough to scare someone from the very beginning. I would NOT put a number on it, but would say that MOST of those who attempt tend to fail !
personally, I was about to seriously give up on flamenco during my first year with flamenco, where I had not played any other guitar music before that point. I went straight into guitar, straight into flamenco.
I dont know if its easier or harder to learn flamenco for you if you played other kinds of music on other kinds of guitar.
at the end, I have come to believe that a true flamenco DID NOT choose to be a flamenco for oneself. its more like the person was CHOSEN to be a flamenco, but by who?? the only explanation I have is by the duende ! the duende chooses people to be true flamenco, and its not the persons choice.
if you know that you were not chosen, no problem, you can still learn and play flamenco, but a true flamenco will always be on another scale. I dont know how to describe it. it can all be felt !
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Date Jul. 5 2012 15:02:23
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Doitsujin
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RE: I don't play Flamenco (in reply to clevblue)
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lol Why are you all so negative? I just pointed out how difficult flamenco is.
Look around in the foro here are rarely people who can play good. Flamenco is difficult.
Because I´m a very nice person and I have a positive moment right now I will answer some of the questions. :>
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Where are you on that spectrum? Also,
When was the last time you posted something positive on the
foro?
I'm amateur player, it doesn't matter where I am. But you ask..so I see myself way lower than average here. That means way above Todd whose playing is basically all made up with studio gadgets.
To your second question: Date Jun. 26 2012 21:53:37
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You're so right D. Why bother with anything? Right? I mean everything
and everybody sucks, so there's no point to anything in life.
Maybe suicide is a good option.
No you misunderstood. My answer was very simple. Nothing to interpret. I only talked about how difficult flamenco is. And thats fyi the exact answer to the initial question of this thread.
Here the question again: " I've always loved Flamenco music but been afraid to try, now there's so much tuition on the web I can't fail. Or can I?"
So I dont see the point why you are all whining like little girls about the only true answer.
And suicide is not an option Todd. We have some problems right now..but you should not think about that.
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Some people on the forum are just *******s at times, ToddK says well
what I'm thinking.
Never mind the other threads, *******s in abundance on the foro these
days.
Must be the heat.
I see nobody writing bad things here except you. Here for you: ♥ I hope you feel better now. :)
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But at what point do you pass, below which you fail?
There are no Flamenco exams as far as I know.
Has Paco Peña passed? Melchor de Marchena?
Do you put the certificate on your wall?
Ron you are the only one whose comment actually makes sense EDIT: till I posted this. Ricardo came right after I posted. So I wont talk about this hereEDIT. You can´t fail if there is no test. Thats true. So,.. the initial question is answered: You can´t fail.
So I rephrase my answer: 99.9% of the people who try, won´t get satisfying results at flamenco-guitar. That means you will probably give up before reaching a level at which you could let it sound smooth and enjoyable.
BAM, et voila. Close the threaT. there is no more to say. ;P haha
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Date Jul. 5 2012 16:39:45
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Ricardo
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RE: I don't play Flamenco (in reply to Doitsujin)
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So I rephrase my answer: 99.9% of the people who try, won´t get satisfying results at flamenco-guitar.
As we get better and better, we tend to look back and be LESS satisfied with were we are at NOW. Even PDL is unsatisfied and strives to do better. Florian just brought this point up recently how less impressed he is with himself the better he gets. YOur 99% is super high, and it shows your not satisfied with your own playing...also calling one's self "amature" is an excuse for pretending to be satisfied with ones own level of suck and mediocrity. Your actually not that bad Doit. I think the level of those satisfied where they are at with flamenco is much higher than 1%, but actually because they are LOWER level...only the high level players get more and more dis satisfied, even when they get accolades and awards. Its because they know where they stand in bigger picture. It's normal. Truth is the is a smaller percentage of higher level players, and again it's normal.
To me, if you can play in compas consistently, your are at "pro level" even if you want to call yourself amature because you don't get paid. If you can't play in compas, or tend to lose it more often than not, I consider you a beginner. that's just me but it's pretty simple to see which category people fall into that way.
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