Antonio Rey plays a Conde

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Arash

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Antonio Rey plays a Conde

I played the exact same model from Felipe and its an amazing Guitar

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Pgh_flamenco

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Arash)

quote:

I played the exact same model from Felipe and its an amazing Guitar

I'm waiting for your April 1 post about how you bought a CG171F and this guitar showed up by mistake instead...

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Arash

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Pgh_flamenco)

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ORIGINAL: Pgh_flamenco

quote:

I played the exact same model from Felipe and its an amazing Guitar

I'm waiting for your April 1 post about how you bought a CG171F and this guitar showed up by mistake instead...

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 1 2012 15:11:21

Ricardo

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Arash)

The other guitar on couch, by look of bridge and finish might be an older sobrinos de esteso...unless Felipe is making guitars like that now?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 1 2012 16:03:58

Andy Culpepper

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Arash)

That's one of the most crap-sounding Condes I've ever heard, and I actually love Condes...
Sounds like a low student grade classical.
I guarantee I can make a better guitar than that for 1/4 the money

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 1 2012 21:17:14

mezzo

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Arash)

the chord at 0:57 hurts my wrist nada mas watching it

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 1 2012 21:50:19

at_leo_87

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Arash)

such beautiful playing. through my laptop speakers, the guitar sounds quite good. but maybe im just distracted by his awesome playing.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 2 2012 4:42:40

Ricardo

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

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ORIGINAL: deteresa1

That's one of the most crap-sounding Condes I've ever heard, and I actually love Condes...
Sounds like a low student grade classical.
I guarantee I can make a better guitar than that for 1/4 the money

wait....you're kidding right?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 2 2012 15:20:46

cigany

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Arash)

Not sure: is he playing a Felipe Conde in this clip? Sounds good to me.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 2 2012 18:39:00

Arash

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to cigany)

thats his Reyes

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 2 2012 18:43:53

Andy Culpepper

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Arash)

ugh it sounds soooo plastic..sorry. He sounds amazing on that Reyes.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 2 2012 20:29:39

Estevan

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

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ugh it sounds soooo plastic..sorry.

BLASPHEMY! You're in trouble now, mate.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 2 2012 23:45:22

Doitsujin

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

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ugh it sounds soooo plastic..sorry. He sounds amazing on that Reyes.

Honesty so important. Some things need to be said! Well,.. but I liked the video a lot..^^

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 3 2012 0:50:33

KMMI77

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

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ugh it sounds soooo plastic..sorry. He sounds amazing on that Reyes.

Just goes to show that even though he has the Reyes he is still on the lookout.

I don't believe there is any one guitar that has everything. That's why we all seem to want more.

I agree that the strong sound of modern condes could be described as plastic. But i don't see it as a bad thing. It's just another sound.

Listen to this conde. It's plastic sounding as well. But I like it!

Or this guitar. I'm not sure which maker made it. It sounds super plastic. But the response and separation is off the scale. I'd buy it just from this video alone. Nice woody, sweet classic sounding flamenco guitars are nice. But sometimes i find that sound boring and want something more in your face. If that sound is plastic? I'm in!!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 3 2012 3:30:54

Arash

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to KMMI77)

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ORIGINAL: KMMI77

Just goes to show that even though he has the Reyes he is still on the lookout.

Antonio always liked Condes. I think i heard that he also has 2 Condes besides his Reyes.
One you can see here

and one here

In this Felipe Video,,,,,,well maybe Felipe asked him to come over and try out ....or he is really looking for a new Guitar...who knows

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 3 2012 8:03:00

Andy Culpepper

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Arash)

Guys, guys... I didn't kick your dog

It's just one guitar.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 3 2012 12:19:51

KMMI77

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Arash)

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Guys, guys... I didn't kick your dog It's just one guitar.

You should know we are animal lovers here

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 3 2012 12:48:31

Estevan

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

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It's just one guitar.

No, it's a C-nde; and this is a house of worship. Behave yourself!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 3 2012 15:22:34

tmock

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to KMMI77)

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Guys, guys... I didn't kick your dog It's just one guitar.

My dogs are named Felipe and Mariano, so in a manner of speaking, yes, you did.

For the record, I don't own a dog...but I do love the sound of Rey's Reyes.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 3 2012 16:03:26

Ricardo

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

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ugh it sounds soooo plastic..sorry. He sounds amazing on that Reyes.

hmmm. well, that reyes (Rey plays Reyes and javier Conde plays Conde thanks god) as most, is pretty sickening sweet with tons of sustain and overtones, those tweety bird trebles up high, and when he drives those rasgueados hard....well, those guitars sound good when you don't play em so hard. Condes have more dynamic thanks to dryness or the "plastic" sound????

Whatever is going on with construction designs, if you want to compete with your guitars you should try to do even close to that good with your own models FIRST....then later claim you will out do em for lower price. How about you build me a guitar sounds half as good as that conde and I will pay you double your asking price. Good luck.

seriously without dog kicking, there are taste issues with guitars....like sherries there are super sweet ones and super dry ones. That's why we need more then one kind of guitar in most cases.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 3 2012 17:46:44

Arash

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

Andy, actually i like your guitars. They are a little bit Condeish ;)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 3 2012 18:11:25

bursche

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

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ugh it sounds soooo plastic

Nooo Andy! This is plastic sound at 2:30:

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 3 2012 18:20:07

XXX

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to cigany)

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ORIGINAL: cigany

I assume he used this very guitar to record his new CD. To my ears, both from this video and the CD, the guitar sounds completely FLAT. It sounds like all the notes have the same volume. I hope he returns to his Conde.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 3 2012 19:13:54

Andy Culpepper

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Ricardo)

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How about you build me a guitar sounds half as good as that conde and I will pay you double your asking price.

Man, I would love to have that opportunity!

Seriously though, as I said, I LIKE Condes... that sound has been a huge influence in my building. But this is what I think of as that "good Conde sound"
I guess I am just a blanca man

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 3 2012 20:14:39

tmock

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

Yeah, but I wonder what that Conde Rey is playing in the first video would have sounded like if Morao had played it in that cut from Flamenco Flamenco. And vice versa. The players and recordings are just so different. The Rey video was captured from the side, in a very acoustically reflective room, on a cellphone or something. The Morao video is a professional studio recording. Second is the playing style. Rey has a lot more nail in his attack than Morao, which gives him a brighter, sharper sound.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 3 2012 21:27:19

cigany

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Arash)

Interesting opinions. Let's have another listen to a Felipe Conde....

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 7 2012 17:18:34

Andy Culpepper

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Arash)

That Conde sounds great but it's not 100% to my taste. It has a more "metallic" edge which is more along the lines of what I like in a guitar and it has a lot of weight in the trebles.
Of course it is totally dependent on the player, room, and recording setup.
Still from everything I've heard I prefer Conde blancas. But that is JUST ME

I'm not insulting anyone who likes those guitars, just giving my opinion.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 7 2012 20:18:34

ToddK

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Arash)

Totally pointless to judge the sound of any guitar through a video
camera mic.

I love his playing though.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 8 2012 5:23:56

itoprover

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RE: Antonio Rey plays a Conde (in reply to Arash)

From my experience all new Felipe condes more or less sound similar to the guitar Antonio is playing in that video. They all mature differently though but that harshness in the sound that is disliked by many will almost always stay.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 8 2012 17:12:35