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Florian
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From: Adelaide/Australia
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I don't know about culture other than PR and a little of Orlando xD
I guess that what u mean about west is the west of US?
Anyway, I understand what u're sayin
no when i say west i meant anywhere outside spain not the US exclusively and in particular...,it happens in Australia too...it happens everywhere... it even happens in spain...there's obviously people that know their flamenco in all those countries but i was referring to the general public who don't know any better....usually the ones that call anything on nylon string guitar flamenco, weather its brazilian., mariachi, classical...anything
the same group of naive yuppies who think being a gypsy would be something romantic
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man, it's so difficult for me to distinguish between pure flamenco, bulerías, sevillanas, siguiriyas , fandango, flamenco-influenced pop music, and all those flamenco-related music .
flamenco is complex.
i understand it takes a long time to learn the forms, and it is confusing...i suggest picking one at the time and listening to as many examples as you can of it ...discover what makes them .....but that's what this forum is all about...don't be embarrassed or scared to ask as many questions as you like you will always find a sympathetic ear who remembers how confusing it was and the the only way one learns is by asking...
once u start to recognize the forms for yourself and appreciate them and appreciate the hard work and years and years dedication it takes to do flamenco and hard work and attention to detail to achieve a certain level of authenticity which i think is something very important to all of us you will understand why our reaction to this guy
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flo thats no good, i woulda thought you would be able to keep the hot ones coming back for more shouldn't you?
lol well its not like i am not trying...i am throwing myself on the floor and locking my arms around their feet as they try to live..i am telling them how amazing they dancing after just 30 minutes of lessons and how close they are...nothing works  ...but luckily as the last hot one walks out the new hot one walks in for her 2 weeks...so i quickly forget  ....for another 2 weeks
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Date Nov. 24 2011 14:47:01
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Adam
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From: Hamilton, ON
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ORIGINAL: E_7
can u give ur opinion on these artist?(I'm trying to learn what's the good stuff):
1-Lole y Manuel - Good stuff! Not always very traditional but experimented in a respectful and interesting way.
2- Chambao - I like them in sufficiently small doses but they're not flamenco, they're Spanish pop/chill with flamenco influences. Spanish group so actually does understand flamenco - i.e., knows what they're departing from.
3-Ojos De Brujo - See Chambao.
4-Tomatito - THE MAN. Easily one of the top few flamenco guitarists in the world.
5-Martirio - Authentic, I think? Don't know him well.
6-Nina Pastori - Recordings tend to be very poppy but flamenco-inspired. She is a bona fide flamenco singer, and a good one.
7-Estrella Morente - One of the better female flamenco singers out there.
8-Jim Stubblefield - Who?
9-Armik - Not only cheesy crap, but cheesy crap that sounds the exact same on every album. I'm ashamed that there was a period in high school where I enjoyed putting this cheesy crap on in the background while doing work. Also is a douche - ask Kate or Jason. Not remotely close to flamenco, except that it involves a guitar.
10-Gipsy Kings - Understand flamenco better than most of the popular fakemencos, but they tend not to record flamenco. Every now and then they'll record a bulería or a fandango or something and really confuse everybody. Supposedly the individual guys in the band can really rock the flamenco when they want to.
11-Johannes Linstead - See Armik.
12-Jesse Cook - Cheesy, but the guy does have a good sense for composition and melody, which is more than can be said for hacks like Armik. Some of his albums are definitely enjoyable but by the time he released that live album I found his whole schtick kind of tired. Not flamenco by any stretch, however.
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Date Nov. 24 2011 15:26:40
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Kate
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Joined: Jul. 8 2003
From: Living in Granada, Andalucía
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5-Martirio - Authentic, I think? Don't know him well.
hahahaha obviously not. Martirio is a woman for a start :) She is the mother of Raúl Rodríguez from Son de la Frontera and has been around since the 70's when she worked alongside people such as Kiko Veneno, Pata Negra and Rafael Amador. She then went solo always wearing dark glasses and a flamenco costume singing about being a housewife, getting tatoos, being gay, very modern lyrics and outlook. Her music mixes copla Andaluz, flamenco, bolero, jazz, tango and rock.
She sang on the CD " De Granada a la Luna" the Lorca homage directed by Enrique Morente, which Harold mixed and mastered.
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Date Nov. 26 2011 7:34:50
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Adam
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From: Hamilton, ON
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ORIGINAL: Kate
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5-Martirio - Authentic, I think? Don't know him well.
hahahaha obviously not. Martirio is a woman for a start :) She is the mother of Raúl Rodríguez from Son de la Frontera and has been around since the 70's when she worked alongside people such as Kiko Veneno, Pata Negra and Rafael Amador. She then went solo always wearing dark glasses and a flamenco costume singing about being a housewife, getting tatoos, being gay, very modern lyrics and outlook. Her music mixes copla Andaluz, flamenco, bolero, jazz, tango and rock.
She sang on the CD " De Granada a la Luna" the Lorca homage directed by Enrique Morente, which Harold mixed and mastered.
Her name ends in an o. Totally unfair. Like I said, not familiar with her/him/it/thon at all 
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Date Nov. 26 2011 10:55:12
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i am kidding... 
.. The group is focused to youngsters here in spain
