Jin Oki with Japanese cantaor

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Munin

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Jin Oki with Japanese cantaor

I mean, I have heard the guy before but seeing this is pretty mindblowing.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 4 2011 17:31:38

MarTay6

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RE: Jin Oki with Japanese cantaor (in reply to Munin)

Wow- pretty amazing...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 4 2011 18:42:53

Gimar Yestra

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RE: Jin Oki with Japanese cantaor (in reply to Munin)

kind of a culture shock to hear him sing like that ,i didnt expect that.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 4 2011 18:59:33

chrisva

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RE: Jin Oki with Japanese cantaor (in reply to Munin)

Awesome

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 4 2011 19:57:28

kudo

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RE: Jin Oki with Japanese cantaor (in reply to Munin)

love the falsetas, does anyone have them?

I want to copy them

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 4 2011 20:33:01

NenadK

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RE: Jin Oki with Japanese cantaor (in reply to Munin)

Wow I liked it a lot. thanks for posting.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 5 2011 0:42:36

Elie

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RE: Jin Oki with Japanese cantaor (in reply to Munin)

Jin Oki is an awesome player no doubt
thank you for posting this

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 5 2011 4:24:03

Pimientito

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RE: Jin Oki with Japanese cantaor (in reply to Munin)

Thats really amazing. I know a dutch singer who can sing flamenco with perfect accent and intonation but for a Japanese must be 3 times harder. After seeing so many amazing videos posted over the years I sometimes cant help thinking...Is there anyone out there who ISN'T an incredible flamenco?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 5 2011 7:48:19

KMMI77

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RE: Jin Oki with Japanese cantaor (in reply to Munin)

Im a big fan of this guy also. It must be fun to get to play with an orchestra, especially when it's something other than Rodrigo's concierto.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 5 2011 8:02:29

Munin

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RE: Jin Oki with Japanese cantaor (in reply to Pimientito)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pimientito

Thats really amazing. I know a dutch singer who can sing flamenco with perfect accent and intonation but for a Japanese must be 3 times harder. After seeing so many amazing videos posted over the years I sometimes cant help thinking...Is there anyone out there who ISN'T an incredible flamenco?

Actually I have been told by several people that for the Japanese Spanish is arguably the easiest European language to learn due to certain similarities in grammar and pronunciation/intonation. But it is impressive any way you look at it.

And of course when I was in Granada Emilio would always tell us in class how amazingly disciplined, dedicated and skilled all the Japanese guitarists and dancers are.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 5 2011 8:15:16

aloysius

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RE: Jin Oki with Japanese cantaor (in reply to Munin)

I spent 4 months in Jerez in 1999 and got to know Jin and Taka (the singer in the video) pretty well. Jin had spent a couple of years in Madrid working hard on technique, a year in Sevilla accompanying dancers, and was to spend a couple of years in Jerez accompanying singers, playing for Maria del Mar's Buleria fiesta classes, and doing classes with Domingo Rubichi. Not a bad plan for becoming a good player! His technique was already kick-ass before he came to Jerez, Jerez is what gave him his soniquete though imo. He's doing pretty well now in Japan, and puts out albums for Sony Japan that have pop material as well as flamenco. An awesome guy and good to see someone doing well out of flamenco.

Taka was completely dedicated to cante. He would spend all his time with local gitanos, to the point that when he ran into certain groups on the street they would start doing buleria palmas an insist on him doing a little pataita.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 5 2011 8:43:02

Kate

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RE: Jin Oki with Japanese cantaor (in reply to Munin)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Munin
Actually I have been told by several people that for the Japanese Spanish is arguably the easiest European language to learn due to certain similarities in grammar and pronunciation/intonation. But it is impressive any way you look at it.

When I was learning Vietnamese in Saigon, I found I got the best results using an Andaluz accent.

Thought this video was excellent. We saw a Japanese dancer the other night who was incredible, every move spot on but the posturing reminded me so much of martial arts it was uncanny. Later I learned that the dancer was indeed a martial arts expert. This singer though, if I did not see him I would assume he was from Jerez.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 5 2011 10:55:42

Ruphus

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RE: Jin Oki with Japanese cantaor (in reply to Munin)

Interesting to hear all this!

While your observations are new to me, it has been amazing in the past to realize parallels among languages which you´d expect to be very different from each other.

There are very similar / same idiomatic expressions and routines of semantic approach to be found in languages of very different cultures. Often times not at all inevitably grounded by means of logic.
Almost as if certain common metaphers and associations were stemming from a mutual international root. ( Which some will probably be, originating from holy writings etc.)

While certain indigene languages show us on the other hand how entirely different linguistics can go. ( Some e.g. do not have direct expression for points in time, emotional state, direction, or for numbers; describing such by commonly seen very unusual means and reference / analogy.)
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To my experience martial arts could indeed be handy precondition for flamenco dance ( and others like rock´n roll ).
- Possibly like any physical coordination improving discipline.

Ruphus

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 5 2011 12:04:26

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RE: Jin Oki with Japanese cantaor (in reply to Ruphus)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ruphus
To my experience martial arts could indeed be handy precondition for flamenco dance

Some dancers dance like George Foreman.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 5 2011 12:08:40

machopicasso

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RE: Jin Oki with Japanese cantaor (i... (in reply to KMMI77)

quote:

It must be fun to get to play with an orchestra, especially when it's something other than Rodrigo's concierto.

Do you (or anyone else) know the composer of this piece?

Earlier this evening I was talking with a former student of Manuel Barrueco, and he said Barrueco's learning a 'concerto which was recently composed for flamenco guitar'. We were both wondering if the concierto is the one Oki's performing in the clip.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 6 2011 9:14:46