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Nothing I have said would lead any reasonable person to think I asociate talent with the value of a human life. Life has value in and of itself, regardless of talent or lack thereof. If one chooses to engage in destructive behavior that leads to one's demise, that is one's choice, and it says something about how one views the value of one's own life. Life, in and of itself, is just as valuable in the case of Winehouse as it is in the case of Camaron. What I think you fail to grasp is that apart from how a person lives or dies, it is perfectly appropriate to have an opinion about that person's talent. It does not matter whether or not you or I think Camaron had talent, just as it does not matter whether or not you or I think Winehouse had talent. To suggest that commenting on a person's talent is to place a value on that person's life, as you have suggested I have done, is a total non-sequitur.

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The real irony, Ruphus, is that she was a part of, and representative of, our trivial culture. She created nothing lasting, nothing that future generations will consider worthy, and she alone was responsible for her lack of discipline that led to her demise. The Establishment's "upside-down values" (if I read you correctly) had nothing to do with Amy Winehouse's problems. She alone bears responsibility.

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she alone was responsible for her lack of discipline that led to her demise

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ORIGINAL: Ailsa


I'd just like a little more compassion in the world.

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Of course this debate can go on forever but I think I've pretty much said my piece.