Paco "No Quisiera Que Te Fueras" falseta

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Adam

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Paco "No Quisiera Que Te Fueras...

Looking for the first falseta he does on this song with Camarón, see here:

through 0:33 or so. Anyone know where I can find tabs for this? I'd imagine he also does this falseta on one of his solo recordings from the 70s but I can't seem to find it.

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Adam

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RE: Paco "No Quisiera Que Te Fu... (in reply to Adam)

I've been working on transcribing this by ear (and software

), it's not terribly hard but it's my first time transcribing a flamenco falseta so I'll try to run it by some of you more experienced types!

In particular I'm wondering about the chords Paco (not the random guy in the video, he plays the wrong ones!

) plays between 0:16 and 0:18. It looks to me like

x13231 (Bbmaj7)
x32010 (C)
2002xx (D)
3100xx (Gmin)

but I'm not sure about particularly those last two. Here's a video with the song in better quality:

The chords are at 0:23-0:26. Thanks!

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El Kiko

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RE: Paco "No Quisiera Que Te Fu... (in reply to Adam)

I hear it as
Ebmaj7
Fmaj
Gmaj
Cmaj

if I am on th e right 4 chords...

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CuerdasDulces

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RE: Paco "No Quisiera Que Te Fu... (in reply to Adam)

Here's something to get you started

https://www.flamenco-world.com/shop/paco_camaron.jpg

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Adam

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RE: Paco "No Quisiera Que Te Fu... (in reply to El Kiko)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rico_Kiko

I hear it as
Ebmaj7
Fmaj
Gmaj
Cmaj

if I am on th e right 4 chords...

You are, but the chords I posted are with the cejilla on 5 (my bad for forgetting to mention that) so it looks like we agree except I definitely hear the last chord as minor rather than major.

But what I'm especially curious about is the fingerings. I don't think I have it quite right for the last two, maybe also the first two.

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Adam

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RE: Paco "No Quisiera Que Te Fu... (in reply to CuerdasDulces)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CuerdasDulces

Here's something to get you started

https://www.flamenco-world.com/shop/paco_camaron.jpg

ha! Very good catch. Thanks so much

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Adam

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RE: Paco "No Quisiera Que Te Fu... (in reply to Adam)

CuerdasDulce, very nice. It's very very similar to what I got, maybe just a couple of minor differences. Where did you find this/who transcribed it?

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CuerdasDulces

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RE: Paco "No Quisiera Que Te Fu... (in reply to Adam)

It's a sample from Tocando a Camaron by Jose Fuente. It contains many falsetas from all the albums that Paco & Camaron recorded together.

https://www.flamenco-world.com/tienda/producto/paco-de-lucia-tocando-a-camaron.-estudio-de-estilo-(book-cd)/4937/

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Adam

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RE: Paco "No Quisiera Que Te Fu... (in reply to Adam)

Interesting. Is it a good book? I might pick it up. Although I've got my eye on David Leiva's as it also has stuff for the actual accompaniment.

I've played through what's on the sample page and it's pretty close to what I'd transcribed. I think there are a couple of issues with his transcription, for example I think a couple of times when he writes Bb it's actually a Bbmaj7, but I'll have to take another look at the audio to tell for sure.

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El Kiko

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RE: Paco "No Quisiera Que Te Fu... (in reply to Adam)

well I relistened and put the capo on the 5th and now I have this....

x---x----x---x---x---x---x---x---x---x---x
x---3---3---3---1---1---1---x---x---x---x
2---2---x---x---0---x---x---x---0---x---0
x---3---x---x---2---x---x---4---x---4---5
x---1---x---x---3---x---x---5---x---x---5
x---x---x---x---x---x---x---2---x---x---3

Sorry if it looks funny as I am not used to TAB ( rather music) anyway the last chord I dont hear a third at all ( no B or Bb ) so it's kind of ambigous.

Let me know what you think, it s a bit late for me playing now......

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Adam

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RE: Paco "No Quisiera Que Te Fu... (in reply to Adam)

Turns out this is also the opening falseta to "Punta del Faro" on Duende Flamenco. I've got Faucher's tab for that and he agrees very closely with what I've transcribed so far. As for the chords I posted, he did it the same way except playing the Gm as 355xxx rather than 3100xx.

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