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Ruphus

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What we read about already in the papers has been things like injustice through listings in credibility recordings, where people might be cited as not credible without being aware of such themselves. Only because their address being from within a district that would be considered as unreliable, or for other individually unrelated reasons.

Other contemporary traps can be profiles in community sites like of facebook.
There have been reports according to which people were refused from job applications due to political remarks or unfitting photos on facebook.

Allegedly and very likely job agents and employers already make latent use of these ressources to make sure for the kind of personal characters that they prefer.

And maybe not only employing instances.

As I suspect critical minds might be facing unpleasant conditions without even guessing how come. In a future that might be in its infancy, but have already began.
They might experience rejection or over taxation by land lords, insurances and banks without having ever been unreliable. Or find themselves needlessly obstructed for hours at entry of foreign airports or similar situations, increasingly bullied around without a clue as to why.

One might experience harassment, for his believe in free speech and deemed entitlement to personal opinion, that however could be practically outlawed by insitutions that do not embrace actual democracy at all. Entering you in black lists and giving you a hard time without you ever coming into a position to prove what is being done to you. Chased by a phantom that you deliberately called with your naive trust in liberty.

Could be spirited comments of today will become your pr!ck in the ass of tomorrow.

You think there is too much destruction, desinformation, corruption and mafia out there? You suppose that true democracy would be something fundamentally different from what there is?

Could fighting for freedom turn out like f***ing for virginity?

Without basic change, that´s not only how it used to be, but how it might be getting worse, yet much more untracable.

An online bank weeks ago kicked me out as customer, after 14 years or so. All the years of customership, neither tenth of thousands of € worth that I shoved back and forth in holdings, generating fees for them since, couldn´t matter to them.

And my question as to why, with me having done no offence; and how they would be putting me into trouble, as I would have to fly over to Europe extra to arrange for a new account at another bank ... Wouldn´t impress them.
Instead they replied:
"Selbstverständlich können wir nachvollziehen, dass Sie die Gründe der ausgesprochenen Kündigung erfahren möchten. Wir bitten jedoch um Ihr Verständnis, dass wir Ihnen diese aufgrund einer geschäftspolitischen Entscheidung nicht nennen und deshalb hierzu keine weitere Auskunft erteilen."

Which roughly means:
"Naturally, we can understand that you would like to hear about the reasons for our foreclosure. However, we ask for understanding that we for reason of a business policy decision will not reveal the reason and will not give out any further information".

Can´t help myself, but this almost sounds to me like "with your opinion on societal matters, evident through your postings on the internet, we like to see you severally screwed. You shall guess how come."

Anyway guys, I am traditionally all for encouraging fellows to open their eyes, name and discuss inhuman and insane circumstances in our allegedly oh so sane and democratic world, but there might be subtle albeit badly efficient measures taken to throttle exactly such.

The aware and straight might be the homeless of tomorrow.
- Besides, there exist already some incredibly well educated and analytical bums who I heard talking in German cities pedestrain zones.
They were shouting out amazingly intelligent findings.

Maybe that´s what made them tramps to begin with ... Huh?

Big brother´s watching you, more than ever for sure.

Ruphus
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Florian

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RE: Maybe better watch out for your ... (in reply to Ruphus

wow Ruphus i am sorry for your troubles mate...sounds like terrible treatment...and the justification even worst !! would make me furious as hell...especially with the extra inconvenience to you cause u would have to travel...

But how certain are you that it has to do with posts you have made on the internet ? I could be wrong and please don't be offended...just trying to figure this out ..because if you are right we are all f***ed ..

what made you arrive to this conclusion ? and what could you have said on the internet to make a bank take such drastic action ? if it wasn't the internet what other scenario could it be ? you must have considered a few when trying to figure this thing out..

Dont get me wrong you might be right and if you are you would be the first case like this that i heard off...dosent mean it cant be true but how positive are you that thats what it is and cant be anything else ?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 14 2011 19:08:18
 
Escribano

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RE: Maybe better watch out for your ... (in reply to Ruphus

Yep, prospective employers will almost always check out your online activities for any decent position & salary.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 14 2011 19:22:00
 
Florian

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RE: Maybe better watch out for your ... (in reply to Escribano

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Yep, prospective employers will almost always check out your online activities for any decent position & salary.


ok fair enough...that i can see, at a start of a relationship...they don't know you......but a bank checking on a client that has been with them 14 years already and not caused problems... to send away the business of an existing client because they don't agree with his online views sounds a little ...well to me far fetched, counter productive for what i know the banks like to do...which is take every $ they can get from you...to me it dosent add up....i cant think of anything bad enough anyone could have said on the internet to make a bank (whos are not well known for being high in morals) say no to his money..

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 14 2011 19:26:12
 
Escribano

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RE: Maybe better watch out for your ... (in reply to Florian

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to send away the business of an existing client because they don't agree with his online views sounds a little ...well to me far fetched


Depends on the country and political situation - it would not surprised me.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 14 2011 19:29:36
 
Florian

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RE: Maybe better watch out for your ... (in reply to Escribano

Oh i am sorry i overlooked the part where he said Online bank...so i guess that changes everything somewhat...its a possibility

there's also the possibility that the bank itself could be in trouble financially...? i don't know its very very strange

in any case its terrible terrible treatment

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treatment that my bank would never ever do cause i love my bank and they are amazing bank...and i didn't mean that thing i said about them having no morals earlier

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 14 2011 19:40:59
 
XXX

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RE: Maybe better watch out for your ... (in reply to Escribano

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ORIGINAL: Escribano

Yep, prospective employers will almost always check out your online activities for any decent position & salary.


You can do it easily, but that doesnt mean its a right or relevant thing to do regarding a job proposal. Depends on what kind of online activities we are talking about here. Some of them are just as private as real life too, those cases are comparable to sneaking up on somebody, trackign them via car or something. To be honest, i dont want to work for an employer who is willing to read my diary or other private thigns that mustnt interest him anyway.


Ruphus, i didnt understand the story, or the reason they kicked you, but i hope it will have a happy end for you.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 14 2011 20:17:20
 
Ruphus

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RE: Maybe better watch out for your ... (in reply to Florian

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ORIGINAL: Florian

wow Ruphus i am sorry for your troubles mate...sounds like terrible treatment...and the justification even worst !! would make me furious as hell...especially with the extra inconvenience to you cause u would have to travel...

But how certain are you that it has to do with posts you have made on the internet ? I could be wrong and please don't be offended...just trying to figure this out ..because if you are right we are all f***ed ..

what made you arrive to this conclusion ? and what could you have said on the internet to make a bank take such drastic action ? if it wasn't the internet what other scenario could it be ? you must have considered a few when trying to figure this thing out..

Dont get me wrong you might be right and if you are you would be the first case like this that i heard off...dosent mean it cant be true but how positive are you that thats what it is and cant be anything else ?


Hello Florian,

Guess I would had asked the same questions.
I am not aware of anything else. There are no debts that I owe to the bank or anything thelike.
What I have done is that I once critiszed their portal / webmastering, pointing out to them that they senselessly overloaded their sites with all the same banners, making it impossible to access with slow throughput like of dial-up conncetions. Saying that it could be customer friendly to reserve those banners for the main page and leave sub-sites like those of watchlist or depot relatively free of banners, disregarded by the customer at that stage anyway.
After all, I mentioned this to them after having been unable to access my holdings for over two years for exactly reason of banner cluttering ( and me having been on a dial-up connex ).
- And me wasn´t rude / offensive, trying to be constructive whilst mentioning these practical points.

That was the only occasion that one could regard as "negative" if backwarded enough.
Yet, that critique on their webmastering must be a year or so back.

What could I have said on the internet to trigger drastic action?

I have repeatedly mentioned that banks have long since made servants of governments, who lend money to banks at nominal ( = practically zero ) interests, only so that the banks can lend people´s tax money back to the people at usury rates.
I have mentioned how artificially instigated states depth come about, which works the same way, with banks lending states money back to the state at market conditions.
I have tried to bring focus to regular depressions like to the latest.
With embezzled 52 trillion USD being compensated for once again by tax money, instead of a very logical action of pursuing bankers, retrieving the money and arresting looters.

Surplus value, price gauging, parliaments drawn by lobbyism; weapon, drugs and pharmacy dealings that don´t differ from each other in respect of business model, ethics and community damage.
Major corruption, criminal networks, nepotism, states looting, money laundry ... All conducts no common banks like to see mentioned anywhere.

Have you seen how Swiss spokesmen made Germans shut up immediately early last year, threatening to unveal bribe accounts of German top parliamentarians?
Have you seen headlines of past days about why worlds dictators like to transfer their stolen billions to London, as washing money there would be so comfortable?
Just as the traditional depositing in Luxemburg, Liechtenstein, Caymans ... you name it.

What would you think if about 60% of national gross products vanished through corruption ... Ending up in private bank accounts? Can you imagine what it meant to little people´s economical situation if such obscene drain wasn´t in place?

These are routines, eventhough totally self-evident, commonly little known, and there definitly exists no interest in changing anything about it.
Certainly not through mosquitos buzzing around elephant butts.

The internet is a unique means of direct communication ( as international press currently states, Arabic despotes didn´t anticipate its effects when they allowed internet in their countries, and the US establishment has experienced certain surprise and somewhat rising awareness of their citizens too ), from there no wonder if beneficiaries of established wangle make use of the internet to the opposite as well.

It should be just paradox if they wouldn´t take opportunity of tracking and adminsitering the "troublemakers". ( Have you heard of Echolon?)

And these days you wouldn´t even have the tolerance of individual official in charge who potentially could have granted you the right to name truth / let you slip through; for now it is all machines who preselect, collect and deliver the report on you. Regardless.

Ruphus
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Ruphus

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RE: Maybe better watch out for your ... (in reply to XXX

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ORIGINAL: Deniz

Ruphus, i didnt understand the story, or the reason they kicked you, but i hope it will have a happy end for you.


Thank you, Deniz; but all I can see so far is superfluous head age.
- As if there weren´t enough of it already.

Been busy with running to lawyers and courts on several cases for over 2 years now, trying to retrieve some misappropriated money. And tomorrow or so shall drive to another place for the same kind of crap.
Can´t tell you the abyss of these past years, with all that I needed now was to fly over to Germany for plain opening a darn bank account. - And to be remembered that I havn´t yet engaged lawyers over there for going after pity cases like that life insurance that ate up 16 000 € while accounting only some 700 or so as disbursable.
( Just scratching the other 5 additonal grands that a shipping company blackmailed from me after contract for shipping my container to here when moving; and this and that of slicks, blahblah.)

Shoot me to the moon, man; this just ain´t my planet.
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Let´s hope for no Japanese Tshernobyl for now.

Ruphus
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