RE: Rafael Riqueni

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Ron.M

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RE: Rafael Riqueni (in reply to Harry)

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Great article ramparts, thanks!

Me too!

"I’ve travelled the world with my guitar and, okay, there were times when I had a group, with bass, percussion…but alone is how I feel best and how I believe the art of the guitar should be communicated and you can appreciate all the subtleties of the instrument. " (Riqueni)

That's what I've always liked best about Flamenco guitar, either with a singer, dancer or playing solo.

Naked guitar...that's it. That's the Flamenco sound that does it for me anyway.

All the rest of the stuff just waters it down IMO...

cheers,

Ron

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NormanKliman

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RE: Rafael Riqueni (in reply to Ron.M)

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All the rest of the stuff just waters it down IMO...

I agree, although an experiment now and then is okay. Violin and cello sound natural with the guitar. About watering it down, for me, anything more than just a touch of reverb dilutes the results.

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Adam

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RE: Rafael Riqueni (in reply to NormanKliman)

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ORIGINAL: NormanKliman

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All the rest of the stuff just waters it down IMO...

I agree, although an experiment now and then is okay. Violin and cello sound natural with the guitar. About watering it down, for me, anything more than just a touch of reverb dilutes the results.

Have you heard Riqueni's soleá on Alcázar de Cristal? It has this soft, beautiful trémolo that leads right into this majestic finale with a string quartet. Glorious. If that's watered down, give me more water

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 18 2011 23:10:33

chapman_g

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RE: Rafael Riqueni (in reply to Ron.M)

Does palmas and jaleo water it down in your opinion or is that okay?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 18 2011 23:49:20

Harry

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RE: Rafael Riqueni (in reply to Ron.M)

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That's what I've always liked best about Flamenco guitar, either with a singer, dancer or playing solo.

Naked guitar...that's it. That's the Flamenco sound that does it for me anyway.

I totally agree Ron. I was going to post something about this comment of his as well. I think that part of the problem, part of the reason why we have an electric bass and all of these other instruments is obviously that flamenco has become arena rock-afied.

People today just don't listen, they don't truly listen and open their hearts and minds to musicians. The focus required to be a good audience to a flamenco artist is just not a talent that most people possess. It's sad but that is how it goes, and who can blame people since what we hear around us is 99% music to just pass the time, entertainment, background music. But as Paul Hecht writes in his great book that was recommended to me on this foro: "The authentic cantaor is never an entertainer." So true so true, and it is also true of flamenco guitarists like Riqueni and so many others. I wish Paco would lose his ensemble for an upcoming show in June here in Montreal; if there is anyone who can keep a huge audience glued with just a guitar, a mic and a fistful of Grace it's him.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 19 2011 4:37:05

Ron.M

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RE: Rafael Riqueni (in reply to chapman_g)

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Does palmas and jaleo water it down in your opinion or is that okay?

No, not at all, but I sorta prefer that with cante stuff. I'm still not keen on cajon though.

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 19 2011 11:05:36

XXX

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RE: Rafael Riqueni (in reply to Harry)

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ORIGINAL: Harry
great book that was recommended to me on this foro: "The authentic cantaor is never an entertainer." So true so true, and it is also true of flamenco guitarists like Riqueni and so many others. I wish Paco would lose his ensemble for an upcoming show in June here in Montreal; if there is anyone who can keep a huge audience glued with just a guitar, a mic and a fistful of Grace it's him.

duende is the ether of the so-called flamenco aficionado

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 19 2011 13:06:18

ralexander

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RE: Rafael Riqueni (in reply to Ron.M)

Great article, thanks ramparts! We'll let that comment aboot Canada slide, eh?!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 21 2011 3:41:46

michall

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RE: Rafael Riqueni (in reply to Ron.M)

I wanted to go to his concert here in Madrid one month ago but it was canceled because they said to us that he have tendinitis. I saw him also in Amor de Dios one month ago and he was very drunk, so I was very disapointed when I saw him because I think he is very good composer and even better guitaris.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 21 2011 11:45:15

CarloJuan

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RE: Rafael Riqueni (in reply to henrym3483)

Very beautiful. Poetic. I have to admit some of his music i still don't understand yet. But i'm liking this solea.

I generally tend to like solea whatever way it is presented. But for some reason i can't seem to grip my head on this one.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 21 2011 12:21:12

bbenedicto

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RE: Rafael Riqueni (in reply to Ron.M)

Here's a nice Soleá.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 3 2011 3:10:21

rombsix

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RE: Rafael Riqueni (in reply to bbenedicto)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 12 2011 16:36:33

paleto3

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RE: Rafael Riqueni (in reply to rogeliocan)

Riqueni has already recorded the new CD. I have been communicating with him now and again.

I connected Riqueni to someone here in the US to record another one next year (2012). I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it all works out.

Can't wait to hear his new music. I think the one coming soon will be a mostly guitar only CD, although I haven't asked him that question.

I'll check with him to find out if it's going to hit the street soon.

-Anthony

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 13 2011 5:04:21

Thomas

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RE: Rafael Riqueni (in reply to CarloJuan)

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Very beautiful. Poetic. I have to admit some of his music i still don't understand yet. But i'm liking this solea.

I generally tend to like solea whatever way it is presented. But for some reason i can't seem to grip my head on this one.

in contrast to whatever the video header tells, this is not a soleá but a seguiriyas....

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 13 2011 9:44:39

Ricardo

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RE: Rafael Riqueni (in reply to Thomas)

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ORIGINAL: Thomas

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Very beautiful. Poetic. I have to admit some of his music i still don't understand yet. But i'm liking this solea.

I generally tend to like solea whatever way it is presented. But for some reason i can't seem to grip my head on this one.

in contrast to whatever the video header tells, this is not a soleá but a seguiriyas....

No it's solea. Thing is when I first heard that D chord llamada I thought he was starting a siguiriya too. The reason you guys can't wrap your head around it is because it is very baile oriented....ie slow llamada type stuff....and modern tonality. But it is very normal solea compas. We are used to guitar solos and cante solos moving much quicker then that tempo.

Ricardo

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 13 2011 17:52:46

mark indigo

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RE: Rafael Riqueni (in reply to Thomas)

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in contrast to whatever the video header tells, this is not a soleá but a seguiriyas....

i think the video header is right, it's soleá. In D phrygian using rondeña tuning.

starts with a fairly standard straightforward llamada (or would be if it was on an E chord in standard tuning!), the fade up means you don't hear the first beat clearly, but he plays

1e&a, 2e&a, 3 &, 4e&a, 5e&a, 6 &, 7e&a, 8 &, 9e&a, 10

then wait for 2 beats (11 and 12) and starts again for 2nd compás

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 13 2011 20:09:23

Thomas

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RE: Rafael Riqueni (in reply to Ricardo)

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Thomas

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Very beautiful. Poetic. I have to admit some of his music i still don't understand yet. But i'm liking this solea.

I generally tend to like solea whatever way it is presented. But for some reason i can't seem to grip my head on this one.

in contrast to whatever the video header tells, this is not a soleá but a seguiriyas....

No it's solea. Thing is when I first heard that D chord llamada I thought he was starting a siguiriya too. The reason you guys can't wrap your head around it is because it is very baile oriented....ie slow llamada type stuff....and modern tonality. But it is very normal solea compas. We are used to guitar solos and cante solos moving much quicker then that tempo.

Ricardo

You're right , Ricardo - it is a soleá. The Llamada you mentioned made me barking up the wrong tree....

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 14 2011 5:34:34

Don Dionisio

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RE: Rafael Riqueni (in reply to Ron.M)

The video that Grisha loaded Cogiendo Flores (Gathering Flowers)
is just so beautiful and will be on his new album.
I can't wait to get it.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 14 2011 13:30:24

paleto3

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RE: Rafael Riqueni (in reply to rogeliocan)

Just heard from Riqueni himself.

The new CD will have Estrella Morente on one tune, a couple others have upright bass, cello, drums and piano. But he says it's mostly just guitar.

There's gotta be a little cajón, but we'll see.

He didn't answer when it will hit the streets, nor what palos are on there.

Should be a nice treat.

-Anthony

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 15 2011 4:31:09

rombsix

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RE: Rafael Riqueni (in reply to Ron.M)

http://vimeo.com/14165044

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 17 2011 21:29:43

Ricardo

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RE: Rafael Riqueni (in reply to rombsix)

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ORIGINAL: rombsix

http://vimeo.com/14165044

A bit hairy technique wise. But notice how much better a blanca sounds close miked like that?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 17 2011 22:25:46