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tamoio

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Joined: Feb. 7 2011
From: mostly Alaska

Dessication

So to begin with...and in a way an introduction: I live in Alaska. A very cold part of Alaska which when it gets very cold gets very dry.

This is the first Alaska winter for my guitar and this week is bad, -40F the last few days. I have one of these digital hygrometers in the case and it dropped down to 39% over night. I also have a humidifier hanging from the guitar strings inside the body cavity (Oasis) and I put a wet sponge in the case down at the headstock end.

What else can I do? Maybe I should wrap the whole case in a plastic garbage bag?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 15 2011 18:50:35

Ron.M

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Joined: Jul. 7 2003
From: Scotland

RE: Dessication (in reply to tamoio)

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What else can I do?

Hi tamoio.

You could maybe skin a bear and use the fur to keep it insulated ?

(Don't almost cut your thumb off though, like our Manitoba member "c"...

)

"Actually
One day about twenty years ago
I almost cut my thumb off, while skinning a black bear.
I have learned to compensate for some loss of movment ...
The tendon and nerves never did heal totaly.

That was a long time ago. I dont think it interfears with my playing
it really only bugs me when I try to pick up a pin
but ya ...... It dont look right

c "

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 15 2011 19:16:07

tamoio

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Joined: Feb. 7 2011
From: mostly Alaska

RE: Dessication (in reply to Ron.M)

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ORIGINAL: Ron.M

quote:

What else can I do?

Hi tamoio.

You could maybe skin a bear and use the fur to keep it insulated ?

(Don't almost cut your thumb off though, like our Manitoba member "c"... )

cheers,

Ron

Bears are out of season, and a little hard to find in February, but I suppose if I did bag one and got caught I might end up in the care of the Alaska Department of Corrections who might even have humidified accomodations, but its just as likely they contract out with the private prison "industry" and I would be shipped off to a particularly unpleasant corner of Arizona without humidification.

Anyone ever tried a "Humicase"?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 15 2011 19:25:25

jshelton5040

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RE: Dessication (in reply to tamoio)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tamoio

So to begin with...and in a way an introduction: I live in Alaska. A very cold part of Alaska which when it gets very cold gets very dry.

This is the first Alaska winter for my guitar and this week is bad, -40F the last few days. I have one of these digital hygrometers in the case and it dropped down to 39% over night. I also have a humidifier hanging from the guitar strings inside the body cavity (Oasis) and I put a wet sponge in the case down at the headstock end.

What else can I do? Maybe I should wrap the whole case in a plastic garbage bag?

If you're holding the humidity at 39 in those conditions I'd say you're doing just fine. Your guitar should be ok as long as the humidity stays above 30 although you might notice the frets sticking out from the sides of the fingerboard. What your're doing works much better than those little gadgets in the humicase.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 15 2011 20:10:26

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Joined: Nov. 20 2005
From: manitoba, canada

RE: Dessication (in reply to Ron.M)

Your memory is much too good Ron,,,,,,and your humor????........
You Love a story

Once, back in the late 70's our rock band was booked every week from monday nite to saturday nite.
I worked as a taxidermist during the day, and one monday I cut my index finger almost in half skinning a POLAR BEAR It took 10 stitches ( I have lots of scars) What a disaster.

So on the way to the gig I bought a chrome slide.......that is how I learned to play slide guitar. I had this huge white bandage on one finger and the slide on the middle finger, and faked my way through (had trouble with the chording the first nite but nailed it by the weekend)
True story

Anyway, It can get very dry in the cold months in Manitoba
I use a household humidifier just to keep the air breathable.
It seems to be enough .....(touch wood) I have 3 flamencos ...no cracks...

c

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 15 2011 21:09:53

estebanana

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RE: Dessication (in reply to tamoio)

So how is it playing slide flamenco with cold fingers?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 15 2011 22:08:04

tamoio

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From: mostly Alaska

RE: Dessication (in reply to estebanana)

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ORIGINAL: estebanana

So how is it playing slide flamenco with cold fingers?

I always thought of Leo Kotke's stuff as drunken-slide-flamenco.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 16 2011 0:09:31

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Dessication (in reply to tamoio)

As John said, you

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 16 2011 7:49:52

krichards

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From: York, England

RE: Dessication (in reply to jshelton5040)

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Your guitar should be ok as long as the humidity stays above 30 although you might notice the frets sticking out from the sides of the fingerboard.

Its maybe worth saying that if the frets do start to protrude, its a simple job to put right.
You should be able to live with it till you get to a luthier. Its a once only job, shouldn't need doing again.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 16 2011 7:58:40

Ron.M

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From: Scotland

RE: Dessication (in reply to c)

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and your humor????

It's just that your original mention of skinning a black bear took my brain spinning off at a tangent!
It's like someone asking if anyone could recommend a good all-round knife for general Lutherie and someone replying, " I use a really great knife.... I originally bought it for my sport of alligator fighting, but it's really handy in the workshop as well...."

It kinda makes the Lutherie question fade into the background...

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 16 2011 16:36:03

edguerin

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From: Siegburg, Alemania

RE: Dessication (in reply to tamoio)

quote:

As John said, you

Yes ... ???

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 16 2011 17:19:28

tamoio

Posts: 20
Joined: Feb. 7 2011
From: mostly Alaska

RE: Dessication (in reply to edguerin)

Thanks to the insightful replies and moral support of this forum I saved myself the cost of a $300 humicase with a $1.50 blue kitchen sponge!

Its seems that with blue kitchen sponges (as with many things in life) size does matter. Originally I tried using 1/2 sponge but 1 complete sponge at the head end of the case + the oasis humidifier in the body cavity and the humidity now is hovering around 59%.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 16 2011 17:36:10

jshelton5040

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RE: Dessication (in reply to tamoio)

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ORIGINAL: tamoio
Originally I tried using 1/2 sponge but 1 complete sponge at the head end of the case + the oasis humidifier in the body cavity and the humidity now is hovering around 59%.

Don't go crazy with humidifying your guitar. Too much humidity can do as much or more damage than too little. Most luthiers try to keep their shops at around 45% so that's the number you should be shooting for.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 16 2011 17:57:16