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Pimientito

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I had lunch with a friend the other day who was showing off his latest iphone. "Check this out" he said. "When I'm asleep I put the phone next to my pillow. The phone actually dectects when I'm in deep sleep and when Im nearly awake in the morning" It can work out when to set off my alarm clock so that I dont get woken up in a deep sleep cycle and I always wake up refreshed"

I thought it was pretty cool and also amazing that the phone could work this out. He could print out a display of his sleep pattern from the previous night and even the previous month. By having sensors in the phone you could record sleep patterns and all sort of other body functions such as temperature, blood pressure, heart rate etc.
Where is all this going I wondered. what will phones be doing in 5 to 10 years?

"well of course one thing will be they will have the ability to translate languages as you are talking to someone..." What a great idea. Imagine that you phone someone in China and you talk in English. His phone translates directly to Chinese. When he talks back to you, your phone translates to English. Its a Universal translater...something from Star trek and will end the need to learn endless languages. Cool or scary? I couldnt decide. Apparently in development already and could be a reality in the next 5 years.

I then started to get more interested in the medical applications of the phone. If your phone can detect your heart rate, blood pressure, sleep patterns, skin temperature, it would not take much more to turn it into a diagnostic machine. With the insertion of a small silicon chip under your skin you could predict heart atttacks in suceptible patients. You could monitor blood sugar in diabetics. You could even measure blood alcohol. Imagine that a convicted drink driver would not be able to start his car if the phone told him his blood alcohol was too high.
You could also store other medical data such as blood type or diseases. If you were involved in an accident then the hospital would know what your blood pressure is, what blood type to order, whether you were poisoned, had a stroke etc.
In fact you could phone your doctor from your home and he could offer immediate recommendations based on what your phone was telling him...

The phone would also interact with your domestic appliances letting you know when the bath was full, when the washing was done, it could even detect when you are hot or cold and alter your heating/ air conditioning to suit you.
It interacts with your car, it records where you have been, how much fuel you used...and it allows others to see where you are anytime using the SAT- NAV.

It would also solve credit card fraud. Your phone now identifies you by your voice, your bio chemistry, your finger prints, your bio rhythms. This would mean that before making any payment your phone truly identifies you. It could even mean the end of conventional pass ports, simply buy your travel ticket with your phone, pay for it and pass through security with only one verification.

Does all this sound good? Well yes and no. My problem is that if someone was living in my house who knew all that stuff about me, I'd feel very uncomfortable. Im not sure I want a device that can know and transmit all that information about me.
If you have a device that can detect a voice and at the same time monitor changes in blood pressure, heart rate and skin temperature then HEY PRESTO...you have a polygraph.
Now imagine that while talking to your friends or business clients you also have a pretty good idea whether they are lieing or not during the conversation.
Conversation starts
"hi, is that John?"
"yes"
"Hey john how are you?"
"good thanks"
and you have 2 control questions to compare responses.

So lets now imaigine the scenario where you phone your boss to take the day off sick. You put on your best husky voice
"Hi boss, Ive got the flu and cant come in today"
He detects stress fluctuations in your voice.
He knows by your sleep pattern that you didnt go to sleep until 3.22 in the morning.
He knows that you have low blood sugar and a large quantity of alcohol in your blood stream.
He knows you drove your car to a large town accompanied by his secretary, that you bought whisky and contraceptives in a store on the way back home.

All this info being given in real time from your next generation phone.

I think technology has wonderful potential but right now I would rather risk having an unavoidable heart attack tomorrow that have technology be able to access anyone my driving, spending, sleeping, eating and social habits whenever they want.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 4 2011 13:58:13
 
at_leo_87

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RE: Future Phones (in reply to Pimientito

hey mark,
is that iphone thing seriously for real? that's crazy! and i thought video calling was impressive.

those are some very cool ideas you have pointed out. exciting but also scary to think about.
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Ruphus

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RE: Future Phones (in reply to Pimientito

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pimientito

He detects stress fluctuations in your voice.


There already exists a lying detector software for the computer, so such will certainly come up for smart phones as well.
Actually I would like to get me one, seeing the incredible measure of betrayal over past years, and my conclusion that I can´t tell nada about what is going on in people´s minds.

I obtained shares from Samsung over ten years ago, because they were planning to build phones in shape of watches ( and because they are about overtaking the market niche of Sony ). The shares turned out to be a good buy so far.

There also already exists the option for privatiers to track down phone owners, which will make it harder for husbands and wives to keep secret affairs with lovers, and which also makes a lot of sense for parents who like to keep an eye on their cell-phone stuffed offspring.

Having nothing to hide with the way I live, I appreciate many of the mentioned features; but on the other hand they in general are reason for worries undoubtedly.

When ID-cards came out, there was some turmoil in France where people remembered the times of resistance under the Nazis / Vichy-regime and thus refused electronic ID.
With todays electronic means of communication, location- and ID control, resistance under a regime is impossible in the long run. Let alone with the means yet to be established.
I know of a regime that holds 4 GB recording storage for every single national telephone connection. At least that is what people there say to have leaked from tel-company employees.

The US already in the early eighties managed to cover all electronic communication world-wide through giant ring antennas that would scan telephone, telex and ( later ) fax networks.
This has already been refined by todays technology, with long since no antennas needed anymore; meanwhile including control even on old-fashioned paper letters that can be read without opening.

These days every country sets up its own frisking tech feeding it with corresponding catchwords for tracking. As it still needs personnel for the final tapping there are huge hosts at work that eat up a considerable share of the NGPs. ( Alone for the US Echolone, merely responsible for internet frisk, 40 billion USD yearly.)

Having mentioned the vast and possible misuse of modern communication technology, it can´t be praised enough the merrits on the other hand, namely those of the internet.
The internet today is the biggest support for the people to pass by concertated press and regime barriers.

Which again leaves it clear that there is great interest of regimes in controlling it. Namely by inntroducing selective mirroring.
It can be that the US started preparations since the early millenia; and of the regime quoted above ( with the 4 GB storage ) it is rumoured that they are working on a national sort of intranet already, with which you´d think to be having access to the internet while only seeing a mirrored fraction.

Conclusion:
The coming smart phone features will be really great, starting with assistance in circling in lies up to wonderful GPS tools ( like GPS maps filed and expanded by user community / helping you in the future with precise orientation even in undedeveloped country´s sites ).

But the same tech can turn out to be hell if you simply be disliked by anyone just closer to Big Brother than you.

For making a howsoever alleged "bad person" or a "subversive element" out of you will be taking not more than a couple of mean mouse clicks to construct an "evil" vitae of you.

In sight of plummeting ressources with over population and progressively pointing pharaonic societies modern technology could be henchman of a horrible scene.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 5 2011 10:12:15
 
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RE: Future Phones (in reply to Pimientito

sick.

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Pimientito

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quote:

sick.

What is sick? the present or the future? The Sleep pattern thing in the new iphone is a reality. Universal translaters are not only a concept but are being developed. Today you can leave a voice message and it gets converted into text. Its only one step away from being translated.

Ruphus, your informative post rings very true and sadly I also feel that these sort of devices which start off as being useful to society edventually can end up being used against us. I knew about storage of phone converstions for a long time. I couldnt understand how that would be useful considerring the millions of GB of everyday drivel being recorded. Then someone explained computor programs only need to target specific word or phrases and only those relevant conversations will come up.

The fact is if you speak on a telephone, you are using a device whose network is owned by a corporation. If you send mail, you entrust that written message to a corporation for delivery. Everything written on the net can be stored on servers owned by corporations. We think of the net and mobile phone as means to explore our world. It never occurs to us that they can also be used by others to investigate ourselves.

Its very easy to start sounding paranoid but it does scare me how fast this stuff moves and how quickly people adapt to using new technologies before realising the impact on their current level of privacy and autonomy. I know it sounds old fashioned to not take on too many modern gadgets etc. but I think for example in Spain where people still use cash instead of cards for everything that its nice (and healthy) not to have a record of every transaction you ever made.

My worry is that personal identity may need to be verified electronically for EVERY transaction. If we were all to get micro chipped in the name of identity protection or national security then that is goodbye to civil liberty and the corporate governments gain absolute control of the matrix.

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1 single mega solar flare - ...


Actually scientists report slight alteration already and suspect that earths magnetic field is about to change / its poles to be shifting from spinning axis.

That would mean exposure to solar winds and consequences would be huge.

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Everything written on the net can be stored on servers owned by corporations. We think of the net and mobile phone as means to explore our world. It never occurs to us that they can also be used by others to investigate ourselves.

This is what already happened with Facebook.
I hear a story of some women who was fired coz she made some bad comments about her hierarchie on her "private" fb account.

I think the CIA is very interested in FB! A great tool for them

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 5 2011 13:36:02
 
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RE: Future Phones (in reply to Pimientito

I have evaluated sleep patterns via EEGs in a sleep laboratory, but for that you have to have a clear recording, picked up via sensors glued to your head. Would be interesting how your friend picked up the signals from the body.

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The new iphone doesnt read your brainwaves like an EEG. It has movment detectors in it and simply records your movement patterns like turning over, twitching etc. That is enough for it to "guess"if you are in a deeper or lighter state of sleep.

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The new iphone doesnt read your brainwaves


No but the SPiphone does.

It even records your thoughts and dreams as well and posts them on the Internet unless you pay a special monthly subscription supplement.

You need special rare earths to make 'em, which we do not have.

They are made by the creatures inside the earth, who also tamper with the earth's magnetic core in their spare time, turning the Earth into a giant tumble-drier and will be laughing when we, on the surface, are all flame grilled.

I first forecast these events by observing the Hale-Bopp comet with a telescope way back in 1997, so it's not just some idle speculation or personal theory. It is simply beyond science as we know it.

cheers,

Ron
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 5 2011 16:37:00
 
Ruphus

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I really hope that there shall still be mood for people to ridicule in a couple of years form now.

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I hear a story of some women who was fired coz she made some bad comments about her hierarchie on her "private" fb account.


Yes it has happened to more than one person. You can search lamebook.com to see other instances.

It's their own fault. Whoever is stupid enough to post stuff online and think that it's private deserves it, IMO.
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RE: Future Phones (in reply to at_leo_87

IPhone are the best one in all cell phone because of their features.I love to use use these phones.These cell phone are helping us to provides any type of information by accessing internet on them.

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