Malaga & Granada in Jan 11- 21

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mrMagenta

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Malaga & Granada in Jan 11- 21

I'll soon be off to Malaga on an unplanned trip and will probably stay half the time in Granada. I'll be bringing a guitar because it would feel silly otherwise, but I have no set plans other than catching some light and fleeing my apartment, which will be uninhabitable (re-routing of water and other installations involving a lot of noisy drilling into concrete walls, dust everywhere, and workers running about).

Any forumites down there? I would love to meet up.
Kate? Got anything to look out for in january or is it a very sleepy month?

I'll be traveling with my friend, who sings flamenco. Since we will be in the right part of the world it wouldn't hurt to scope for places and people to return to for possible studies etc. I would be happy if anyone can give tips on guitarists with the patience to teach long-way-from-home-forasteros with very undeveloped spanish language skills a thing or two about guitar playing and accompaniment.

And I would love to meet the well of knowledge that goes by the name Norman Kliman (but he's in Jerez, Right?)

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Munin

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RE: Malaga & Granada in Jan 11- 21 (in reply to mrMagenta)

If you're in Granada, ask Kate to give you Alberto's number...never had a better teacher..but you will need to speak *some* Spanish. Otherwise, Jorge El Pisao teaches at Carmen, speaks some English and is a great guy too.

There won't be any shortage of good guitarists and teachers around that area. The more difficult thing is probably making best use of the limited time there, at least that is how it was for me...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 31 2010 1:59:14

at_leo_87

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RE: Malaga & Granada in Jan 11- 21 (in reply to mrMagenta)

val is in alhaurin el grande, town next to malaga. but she isn't there all the time, especially in the cold seasons, i think. i took lessons with gabriel cabrera there and practiced accompaniment with a singer named antonia.
in malaga, i had an accompaniment lesson with a guy named sivi rodriguez ruiz and his wife.
there's also a really freaking good singer by the name of juan granados. he plays at bar hecho or something like that with his brother.
in granada, there's pimientito, but he's always busy. there's also emilio maya.
and definitely say hi to kate and harold.

and munin is right. time flies by! plan ahead!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 31 2010 2:44:12

NormanKliman

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RE: Malaga & Granada in Jan 11- 21 (in reply to mrMagenta)

quote:

(but he's in Jerez, Right?)

Yes. Let me know if you're going to be in town.

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krichards

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RE: Malaga & Granada in Jan 11- 21 (in reply to Munin)

quote:

Jorge El Pisao teaches at Carmen

yes. Excellent

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Adam

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RE: Malaga & Granada in Jan 11- 21 (in reply to mrMagenta)

Another voucher for Jorge (in addition to Emilio, of course) but please don't be one of THOSE guys who makes him have to give the whole lesson in Spanglish... lol

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 31 2010 9:01:18

val

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RE: Malaga & Granada in Jan 11- 21 (in reply to mrMagenta)

Malaga - Gabriel Cabrera's website with videos and contact details at
http://www.gabrielgazules.com/
If not enough Spanish for a phone call, use google translation for an email.
Great guy.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 31 2010 10:47:08

Kate

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RE: Malaga & Granada in Jan 11- 21 (in reply to mrMagenta)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mrMagenta
Kate? Got anything to look out for in january or is it a very sleepy month?

PM me and I can give you Alberto's number and Emilio's. Places to look out for flamenco shows are El Chien Andaluz, try and catch El Niño de las Almendras. Since the Eshavira closed you may find flamenco in El Picaro and sometimes the Booga Club. Check out the Teatro Isabel Catolica for anything flamenco you may be lucky. La Chumbera may be doing shows sat nights and its always worth while to go to the bar at the Peña Platería and see if anything is happening. Apart from that hang out in the Sacromonte, La Bulería and other caves. If you have a friend that sings flamenco and your guitar you will be made more than welcome. The restaraunt Zoraya has become quite a hang out for flamencos, pop in and have a drink and tapa and find out who is performing. You can catch some great local players for the price of a pizza.

I'll keep an eye out for anything else. Granada is terrible for advertising what is happening in advance, posters tend to go up on the day, well maybe the day before ;)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 31 2010 12:00:38

Adam

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RE: Malaga & Granada in Jan 11- 21 (in reply to mrMagenta)

I'd add that as of this summer Zoraya had shows I think every night, usually pretty good folk performing (a lot of teachers from Carmen de las Cuevas hang out and play there), and the Peña has shows Thursday and Sunday, which are also very good but somewhat pricey compared to the others (a whole 8 euros, I think!) and more filled with tourists than some other places. I went with my roommates and because we arrived "on time" we were, of course, in the very back of the room, at a table right behind an Italian family absolutely none of whom showed any interest, except maybe marginally the dad who wanted the wife and kids to have the "Granada experience." When their cheeky kid started snickering at this young singer's beautiful taranta, I wanted to reach out and slap the little punk, but I was unfortunately in no physical state to do so

But the Peña is a pretty historic place and definitely worth a visit.

The other big tourist problem is at Le Chien Andalous, which is tiny so fills up about 15 minutes before the advertised 10 PM start time, so you get to choose between getting a decent seat and waiting 45 minutes for the actual 10:30 PM start time and coming later and having to stand in back. But it's always worth it to stick around after the show (especially on a Fri or Sat night) because you're likely to get a bunch of the local flamencos hanging out and jamming until 3 or 4 AM (or later)! Same is true of course for the caves in the Sacromonte. But my most surreal night in Granada (limited sample size, mind you) actually began with a group of flamencos at the Chien after one of the shows.

Kate, I thought the Eshavira reopened? What's happening there?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 31 2010 14:37:34

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Malaga & Granada in Jan 11- 21 (in reply to mrMagenta)

Good one MrMagenta. Looks like the weather will be good as well.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 1 2011 9:20:57

mrMagenta

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RE: Malaga & Granada in Jan 11- 21 (in reply to mrMagenta)

Thank you guys!

Very helpful stuff. I'll try my best to plan ahead.

Regarding private lessons in spain. What's your experience on using recording gear.. Is is a sensitive thing? Should one stick to notes on paper? I usually ask my teachers if I can videotape a run through of the material we've been working on.

@Norman - I'll do that. Don't think I'll make it to Jerez on this trip, but I'll keep it in mind :-)

@Kate - I'll drop you a PM

@Anders
Nice! I would like to show your blanca to you. It has opened up and stabilized, and I'm really loving it! Only thing I need to get done is to file the fret ends, because they are getting a bit sharp.. I keep a tight control on humidity, but it seems the fretboard still has had some shrinkage.

I think I will be bringing my cheap guitar so I don't have to worry as much when I leave it behind.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 1 2011 23:05:17

Kate

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RE: Malaga & Granada in Jan 11- 21 (in reply to Adam)

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ORIGINAL: ramparts
Kate, I thought the Eshavira reopened? What's happening there?

Nope and it was sadly missed over Christmas and New Year. The whole building needs structural work and dont think the planning permission has even been got yet so we could be in for a long wait before it re-opens.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 2 2011 8:36:36

mrMagenta

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RE: Malaga & Granada in Jan 11- 21 (in reply to mrMagenta)

Munin, Anthony, Val, KRichards, Ramparts, Kate, another big thank you for the tips!

I can't believe that I've been such a slouch with the spanish studies. I promised myself to take courses last year... Well.. This will be trial by fire! :D
Tomorrow I'm off.

Bye for now foro!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 10 2011 21:47:08