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Schalli

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Joined: Sep. 15 2010
From: Mannheim, Germany

Starting Bulerías

Hello everybody!
After playing soléa for over a year now I decided to choose Bulerías as my next (second) Palo. After reading around a lot and hearing how difficult/complex etc. this palo is, I'm asking myself how to start best? Do you have any hints for a beginner, maybe based on your own experiences?

-I guess it would be best to start only playing compas and leaving out falsetas or letras etc? What would you suggest, how many variations of the compas should i learn with the aim of accompanying danceclasses?? Musst be many more than i need in soléa, because of the speed i guess...?
-Do you agree with only playing compass first or do you think it better to include some easy falsetas right from the beginning?
-Do you know where i can get audio/tabs for bulerias compas? I own the Graf Martinez Book, but the examples there sound all VERY similar... I also checked out the Beginners Bulerías Challenge, but the tabs in that thread are no longer available...
- I recognised that Bulerías is not always counted 12-11 with same accents as soléa, but also 123,123 or 12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
Would you sguggest learning only the 12-11 thing at the beginning?
Thanks, and sorry for the bad english

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Chiste de Gales

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RE: Starting Bulerías (in reply to Schalli)

I think the easiest way to start bulerias is this:

........X...........X.......X.......X.......X............X
1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10..11..12...1...2...3

----------------------------------------------|----0-0---0-
2---2---2---2---2---2---2---2---2---2---2---2-|----2-2---3-
2-3-2-3-2-3-2-3-2-3-2-3-2-3-2-3-2-3-2-3-2-3-2-|----2-2---0-
2---2---2---2---2---2---2---2---2---2---2---2-|----2-2---3-
0---0---0---0---0---0---0---0---0---0---0---0-|----0-0---1-
----------------------------------------------|------------

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 30 2010 12:05:05

Florian

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From: Adelaide/Australia

RE: Starting Bulerías (in reply to Chiste de Gales)

il make you a quick vid with 2 really basic rithm compases that i start all my students with when starting bulerias...i think getting down this 2 compases will get you well on your way and because of it...it will train you for other stuff

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Schalli

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From: Mannheim, Germany

RE: Starting Bulerías (in reply to Schalli)

Wow, cool.
Thank you Flo!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 30 2010 12:58:33

Florian

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RE: Starting Bulerías (in reply to Schalli)

the 2 basic compas rithm combination that i like..at medium speed...il do some really slow versions now

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 30 2010 13:58:09

Florian

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RE: Starting Bulerías (in reply to Florian)

Heres a slower version with compas still...

il do one just braking everything down next

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 30 2010 14:22:08

Florian

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From: Adelaide/Australia

RE: Starting Bulerías (in reply to Florian)

just incase you dont pick it up from the video in the first compas...i do the 1 2 compas with A I downwards....can also do it with M I ....and i do the same for the 10

i think if you get this down you are off to a great start

compas 1

compas 2

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 30 2010 14:52:36

Schalli

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From: Mannheim, Germany

RE: Starting Bulerías (in reply to Schalli)

thanks Flo, I'll try my best on this!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 30 2010 14:57:21

Florian

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RE: Starting Bulerías (in reply to Schalli)

sure mate...hope you find it helpful

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 30 2010 15:02:37

marduk

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RE: Starting Bulerías (in reply to Schalli)

thanks florian, im gonna use them too :)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 30 2010 16:01:42

mezzo

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RE: Starting Bulerías (in reply to Schalli)

i made a video 1 year ago. It's about how i learned the medio compas por buleria.
2x6 beat.

Also from 1 year ago a simple buleria with basic falsetas.

hope this help.

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Ailsa

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RE: Starting Bulerías (in reply to Florian)

Thanks for those Flo - always good to have more variations for when dancers want endless compas!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 30 2010 22:10:51

Schalli

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From: Mannheim, Germany

RE: Starting Bulerías (in reply to Schalli)

quote:

always good to have more variations for when dancers want endless compas!

Does this happen often when accompanying Bulerías?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 1 2010 7:24:34

Florian

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RE: Starting Bulerías (in reply to Schalli)

quote:

Does this happen often when accompanying Bulerías?

afcourse amigo...when accompanying anything ...variety is the spice of life...u dont wanna sound like a metronome...for your own sanity...i doubt they would even notice in class

that's why its good to have practiced about 6 rithm variations ( even more if you want) to mix and match

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 1 2010 7:38:53

marduk

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RE: Starting Bulerías (in reply to Schalli)

quote:

Does this happen often when accompanying Bulerías?

i hope so

ive got a video in the audio section in a thread called beginner bulerias i made, that shows these variations, and a couple of other ones that florian showed me, with some falsettas

the fasettas were not great to reference, but i think i did the compas pretty well, it might help you learn a couple of variations of the videos florian posted here

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 1 2010 8:40:08

sean65

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From: London

RE: Starting Bulerías (in reply to Schalli)

Hey Schalli,

I found this one last weekend which is nice as he uses the thumb to accentuate the changes. Don't worry if you can't understand Spanish as he slow's it right down so you will see and hear everything at slow speed.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4894y_bulerias-lesson_music

Thanks Florian, nice changes.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 1 2010 9:43:19

Gummy

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From: North Carolina, USA

RE: Starting Bulerías (in reply to Florian)

Thanks for the uploaded vids! They were nice. I had seen an earlier version of Flos when he uploaded for Kozz or Marduk but this one is more clear. Mezzo, I really liked that second video and how it had so many common bits. I recognised some of Ron's challenge piece iin it.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 1 2010 14:25:47

Schalli

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Joined: Sep. 15 2010
From: Mannheim, Germany

RE: Starting Bulerías (in reply to Schalli)

Another Question:

Does anybody know if this Book/DvD ist good?

http://www.esflamenco.com/product/producto.php?language=en&id=56121598

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 6 2010 12:47:54

sean65

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From: London

RE: Starting Bulerías (in reply to Schalli)

quote:

Another Question:

Does anybody know if this Book/DvD ist good?

http://www.esflamenco.com/product/producto.php?language=en&id=56121598

It's not bad actually. I posted a review a while back.

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=138908&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 6 2010 15:26:22

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