two other great lessons in jerez

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henrym3483

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two other great lessons in jerez

ok, following on from the write up on classes with jesus agarrdo, i said i would do a review of the lessons i had with nino jero and david serva. if anyone should happen to be in madrid or in jerez looking for lessons with these great teachers.

lesson with david serva

david is a super patient and funny guy. great teacher and amazing toque, he showed me quite a couple of variations and endings for some falsetas i already knew and showed me some of diego del gastors material. the material we covered was solea and siguiriyas.he also showed quite a couple of variations on compas and rasgueo patterns. it was a great lesson and he was very patient and allowed me to record at the end.

i think the most important thing i got out of the lesson was advice from david on how to practice and how to think about getting your toque sounding much more authenic and focusing on "good sound". it was quite alot of food for thought.

plus he took me for a beer and a chat later on.

lesson with nino (perikin) jero

during the lesson with perikin jero, i was pretty much given everything i asked for falseta wise. i basically asked him to show me the falsetas he played in the puro y jondo dvd set with juan villar and el torta. he showed me all the falseta´s i tried to work out from the videos, but were missing parts because the videos shifted to the singer when he played the falsetas. he showed me everything he did from solea por buleria, siguiriyas, tientos and tangos.

he also showed me some distinguishing rasgueo patterns which he said were particuliar to jerez, the jerez soniquete and were used by most modern flamenco´s as well. which was equally valuable for me.

it was a great lesson and he was very patient and went through the falsetas super slow and let me record at the end.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 20 2010 17:32:07

Ron.M

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RE: two other great lessons in jerez (in reply to henrym3483)

Henry,

I thought Pim was just joking about sending the T shirt!

Wow! I will wear it anytime I upload something..(which is once every few years!

)

Am totally jealous of you sitting in with Niño Jero...this guy is one of my all-time heros!

cheers,

Ron

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 20 2010 22:08:33

Ailsa

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RE: two other great lessons in jerez (in reply to Guest)

quote:

I can only wonder how intimidating it is to sit across from Nino Jero and attempt to play guitar!!

Yeah that's what puts me off! I have never had a lesson on all my trips to Spain as I just can't imagine it! My fingers would be paralysed with embarrassment at my playing

How did you find it Henry? Was it nervewracking or OK?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 21 2010 11:47:18

henrym3483

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RE: two other great lessons in jerez (in reply to Ailsa)

quote:

I can only wonder how intimidating it is to sit across from Nino Jero and attempt to play guitar!!

i think if you go with the mindset that you are the student and they are the teacher and your goal is to learn something you can usually leave the ego thing at the door.

as regards being nervous, i think i was more excited to be taking a lesson with these guys than anything else.

i count myself fortunate for taking lessons with david, jesus and perikin.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 23 2010 11:05:09

orsonw

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RE: two other great lessons in jerez (in reply to henrym3483)

Here's a great example of rocking compas from Perikin Jero, love the sound of his golpe. Also a good falseta at 3.23, so simple but it really swings. I'm guessing this playing is Ron's cup tea?

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=eryely#p/u/47/sauyOYvLaNU

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 25 2010 20:26:12

henrym3483

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RE: two other great lessons in jerez (in reply to orsonw)

these are some of the falsetas i learned por siguiriyas, some of his other ones are pretty cool as well

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2010 1:10:07

Ailsa

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RE: two other great lessons in jerez (in reply to henrym3483)

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ORIGINAL: henrym3483
i think if you go with the mindset that you are the student and they are the teacher and your goal is to learn something you can usually leave the ego thing at the door.

Yeah good advice Henry - the student is there to learn not to impress, so what does it matter. I'll try to remember that next time I'm feeling embarrassed at my playing in front of my teacher.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2010 8:23:35

mark indigo

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RE: two other great lessons in jerez (in reply to Ailsa)

you pay for the lesson, right? what do they care how bad you are?

If you were already really good you wouldn't be coming to them for lessons!

the worse the student, the more potential lessons they have coming their way, so be as bad as you can, and they will love you more!

(i'm being a bit flip here, but does that take some of the pressure off?)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2010 10:04:00

Ailsa

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RE: two other great lessons in jerez (in reply to mark indigo)

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ORIGINAL: mark indigo

(i'm being a bit flip here, but does that take some of the pressure off?)

Mark, you being flip? Surely not, I've never heard such an outrageous idea.

Lol you guys are right. Why am I so timid and apologetic?

I take myself too seriously sometimes. But I'm feeling much better about the whole playing thing these days. I mean, what does it really matter? I just do my best and enjoy it

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2010 11:44:42