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Ricardo
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Joined: Dec. 14 2004
From: Washington DC
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RE: Jose Cuesta (in reply to Arash)
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yeah, copy was probably a bad word and don't do justice to him. what i meant is his amazing ability to play tomatito 100% like tomatito And along comes Ricardo. My typical stick in the mud shoot down everyone's happy day. He plays really good, good compas and feeling. When I see players at this level little details jump out at me as significant, though they are not apparent to everyone. Just the way I am sorry. When I had the encuentro vid of Tomatito, it was one of the first I had seen, and maybe only the 3rd flamenco guitarist I had ever SEEN play after having listen to them a lot. I had some classical training at that point. We all know that the "teaching" on those vids is non verbal in most cases, they just play and demonstrate THEIR way. But remember most of those guys are model maestros. Tomatito, the very first falseta he "teaches" I felt he was speaking directly to me there with that arpegio. And what he was showing me was "when we flamencos do this ami arp opposite the basses, we REST the thumb". It seems very subtle, but to me it was a huge concept. Nest I noticed ALL the maestro that I respected and try to learn from in flamenco, are doing the same thing. And conversely many self taught home grown players DON'T do it, so it means something to me as a student. Anyway, at 2:48 there he is not doing it. There are other details in his versions of Paco too, but anyway you get the idea. I think he has great potential and should focus on some detail if he is going to copy SO MANY falsetas of the maestros. Ricardo
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Date May 17 2010 5:58:31
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Arash
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Joined: Aug. 9 2006
From: Iran (living in Germany)
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RE: Jose Cuesta (in reply to Arash)
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Ed, do you have Cable there? Where i live, the normal DSL was very slow (just like yours), but because i had Cable i could choose Unitymedia, so now i have DSL 20.000. But this was the only alternative. Doit, don't know but i think what Ricardo meant, are really few details which would be no problem for a player of this calibre to alterate. I mean take the rest stroke thing for instance: it is quite easy to just rest the thumb on the next string in that arp. part. it is a habbit thing. but it gives you some overall benefits. correct me if i am wrong Ricardo. also this rest stroke thing is not so much about copying someone, but copying a good and most effective way. but i totally agree with you that its best to make everything your own version! like play different falsetas from different maestros, but with your own distinctive style and version. so in this part i fully agree with you. also i have noticed that the more the player is good, the more "picky" Ricardo is, but this is good imo. there is always something little to improve. even Ricardo or anybody else can improve. as an observer from outside, watching somebody else (watching videos like here for instance), you can even see better than that person himself, what still could be improved (maybe some things which he overlooked without intention at the beginning, then just got used to it), yes, even if that person is a much better player than yourself. the player here is really awesome. one of the best i have ever seen. but man we are flamenco "freaks" , we always want to go in to detail as much as possible until nothing is left, otherwise we would just post "awesome" and see the next video. would be boring btw, interesting, my top favourite part of the videos are not so much all the falsetas but this part: 2.37 - 2.47 in the first video awesome,
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Date May 17 2010 10:26:31
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