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a_arnold

 

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Best ever bulerias? 

I have some all-time favorite bulerias (cante or instrumental -- don't care), but I am sure I have overlooked a few, and I'd like to hear your faves so I can go out and buy them.

My faves:
Alfileres de Colores (Miguel Poveda and Diego Carrasco, track 7 of "Tierra de Calma", Juan Carlos Romero guitar)

Echame a mi la culpa (Carmen Amaya, source unknown, Sabicas accompanys)

Cazuela Pa (Emilio Maya, Track 8 of "Temple"

Nuevo Dia (Lole y Manuel, cd of same title)

Payaso Falete

Hmm. Camaron and/or PDL should be there. Hard to choose one (or more) from their work.

Maybe Almoraima . . .?

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Elie

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to a_arnold

Paco De Lucía:
-Almoraima ( one of my fav as I played it )
-Cepa Andaluza
-Soniquete

Vicente Amigo:
-Gitano de Lucia ( I will play it before I die )
-Azules y corinto

Paco Peña:
-Solquema ( it always amazes me )

Tomatito:
-La Chanca

Juan Martin:
-Fin De Fiesta (Stunning)

well I better stop because Bulerias is my favorite style and if I wanna list the tracks I love my list will never ends hehehe .
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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to a_arnold

quote:

Soniquete


thats in a piece from another planet , everyone seen toddk s version .

that rocks.

Vinos y cabballos also is amazing,
compositional Impetu is that buleris or Solea por bulerias?

i really (at the moment love jerez style so paco cepero and moriato just have the groove going for me .

when i get excited i blast fiesta en jerez paco pena , and la catalina sabicas
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minordjango

 

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to a_arnold

DeDraven

, nah list more man its good i also love to play the gitanos my vincente, i fear ill die before playing anything remotely similar , but the journey is fun

old world bulerias moron style melodically are real fun
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Grisha

 

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to a_arnold

I love "El Mandaito" by Vicente. With cante, my favorite right now is the second track from "Flamenco vivo" with Camaron and Tomatito. Love the energy on that one.

This one here is nice:



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Ricardo

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to a_arnold

Punta del Faro is an all time favorite.

jucal-nunez

Tercio de Vara-sanlcuar

The one on the album "cuchichi" by Enrique del Melchor.

Buleriando-moraito

Mandaito-Vicente

cante

Carmen Amaya "Queen of the Gypsies"....I only know of it on LP

Maria Vargas live with Paco Cepero (Festival flamenco gitano 1)

Tomatito live in Sanlucar with Zambo and Fernando de la morena. (paseo de castaños)

Tio Borrico, Terremoto, Sordera etc live in Barrio Santiago

Paquera...anything really. She was the best.

Paco and Camaron live in the Peña Flamenca....it is bad bootleg audio you can find on youtube, but amazing performance.

Tomatito and Camaron...anything live....

Potito and Guadiana with Tomatito "Casa del Herrero"

Indio Gitano with Gerardo nuñez

Juan Habichuela and Chano Lobato

Terremto jr with Moraito "Cosa natural"

Zambo with Moraito of course!!!

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to Grisha

quote:

the second track from "Flamenco vivo" with Camaron and Tomatito


Totally agree....That one is definitive for cante.

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to a_arnold

Camaron con Paco y Tomatito : Viviré - Explosive.
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Phrygian

 

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to a_arnold

Anything with La Paquera y Parilla de Jerez.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6bgxv_la-paquera-por-buleria
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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to a_arnold

OK it is old but Almoraima rocks. You feel like you are going on the attack from the opening alzapua.

Does anyone know how Paco gets the tone he does, especially the arabic sounding stuff near the end? Is it all one guitar he plays straight through? Doesn't sound like it.
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srshea

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to a_arnold

The one starting at about 5:20


It's available on "Cantes Gitanos".
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Arash

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to a_arnold

i have too many favourite bulerias.

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XXX

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to a_arnold

my fav at the moment


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Arash

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to a_arnold

but ok, here are few of actual favourites with cante:







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Arash

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to a_arnold

lol Deniz, u 2 El titi ?we posted at the same second

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srshea

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to a_arnold

For solo guitar this one's still tops for me. I don't think it's an accident that that it's the first thing that comes up when you type "bulerias" into youtube....

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XXX

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to Arash

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arash

lol Deniz, u 2 El titi ?



hehe, first!

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CuerdasDulces

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to a_arnold

Check out this Bulerias video of Camaron. I've never seen him play and sing at the same for this long. He was pretty good of course since he had the best teachers .
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Arash

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to a_arnold

interesting vid Cuerdas, nice.
camaron always seamed to be very much interested in what his guitarrist is playing, when you watch him on videos, he always looks at the guitar very ínterested

anyway, i think @ 3.03 someone farted in the video you posted lol

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to Arash

quote:

anyway, i think @ 3.03 someone farted in the video you posted lol


Haha, I guess that just adds to the "aire"
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flybynight

 

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to a_arnold

Most of my fav's already covered. Except:



Bulerias de la Tia Encarna de Pata Negra.
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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to a_arnold

El Pele in "la fuente de lo jondo" with Vincente. Track n°5 (de vuelta a jerez)

Ines y Pedro Bacan in "De viva voz". Track n°3 (la carita colorá)



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ashod

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to a_arnold

flybynight : wow great video you posted! I'm a fan now!

A question though : I'm a recognizing some falsettas that I heard paco play with camaron there. Are those traditional, or is it that he or they borrowed those?
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xirdneH_imiJ

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to ashod

how 'bout Niquelao? it's so complete, so powerful...i love it...
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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to xirdneH_imiJ

Cante: Enrique Montoya. Toque: Sabicas, Diego Castellon, Mario Escudero.
Legacy CD #428: Sabicas: Flamenco Fiesta (sic)

Cante: Perrate de Utrera. Toque: Diego del Gastor.
RTVE CD Colección Nuestro Flamenco 2

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flybynight

 

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to ashod

quote:


Ashod: I'm a recognizing some falsettas that I heard paco play with camaron there. Are those traditional, or is it that he or they borrowed those?


Good question.. I wondered that myself..very familiar.. perhaps Norman or someone might pop in and help us.
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Adam

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to cathulu

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ORIGINAL: cathulu

OK it is old but Almoraima rocks. You feel like you are going on the attack from the opening alzapua.

Does anyone know how Paco gets the tone he does, especially the arabic sounding stuff near the end? Is it all one guitar he plays straight through? Doesn't sound like it.


It is only one guitar - but there's also an oud That does most of the Arabic stuff you're thinking of, stuff a guitar can't even do because of the quarter tones.
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NormanKliman

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to flybynight

quote:

Good question.. I wondered that myself..very familiar..
If you mean the picado at about 2:50 in the Tía Encarna video, I think it's very old, but I have no specific references.

Did anyone notice that, in the middle part of the Camarón home video, he's "remembering" Antonio El Chaqueta? The part where he sings with a froggy voice. El Chaqueta's bulerías from his last recordings with Antonio Arenas are among my favorites.

La Perla de Cádiz was another great singer of bulerías who deserves special mention, especially the recordings she made with Manuel Morao. They made more than just those eight tracks or whatever on the Hispavox album that we've heard so many times. She recorded one bulería in particular that's one of my all-time favorites. It's apparently an old one from the Cádiz area, attributed I think to Rancapino's grandmother La Obispa. (More about this family here. (EDIT 6 October 2010: Link fixed, may change in the future.) Scroll down to the bottom to see a video of Rancapino's brother Orillo and what looks and sounds like a beardless Niño Jero.) Anyway, La Perla and Rancapino recorded it, as did Camarón, but with a different letra. The classic letra is:

Páseme usted el estrecho
que lo mando yo
(en) una barquillita
para Fernado Poo

Once you hear it you'll never forget it. For the longest time, I couldn't figure out "Fernando Poo" (pronounced Poh-oh). One day, I saw a headline about some newspaper putting its archives online, so I went to the site and used the search engine to look for references to flamenco in very old newspapers. One of the regular sections of this newspaper used to have the timetables for departing ships, just because that's how people used to travel. So, among the timetables, there it was in black and white: "Para Fernando Poo." Turns out that it's an island off the coast of Africa (former Spanish colony now called Bioko) and ships used to stop there regularly.

And what about Fernanda y Bernarda? Ohhh... The recording with Marote has one of the all-time greatest bulerías: "Todo el mundo nos separa."

For just guitar, Paco's "Piñonate" and "La Tumbona" are pretty damn good.

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Ricardo

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RE: Best ever bulerias? (in reply to flybynight

quote:

ORIGINAL: flybynight

quote:


Ashod: I'm a recognizing some falsettas that I heard paco play with camaron there. Are those traditional, or is it that he or they borrowed those?


Good question.. I wondered that myself..very familiar.. perhaps Norman or someone might pop in and help us.


Paco played that first at the end of "El Tempul" on Fantasia Flamenca. Taking inspiration from N Ricardo and Sabicas, and even Ramon Montoya who often arranged vocal cancion or "cuple" type melodies into falseta for picado, in A minor. Not sure which melody exactly Paco took his version from, but I think of the falseta as "his" anyway.

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