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yohan
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Joined: Feb. 5 2007
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 RE: @ GuitarristaMadrid (in reply to Arash)
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Is there anyone on this forum who has studied with a universally acknowledged flamenco master for as long as I have.
Is there anyone on this forum who has been playing eight hours or more a day for years, as I have.
Is there anyone on this forum who has been studying tocar solo, tocar por baile tocar por cante y tocar palmas under the strictest guidance of such a master, on a near daily basis, for years.
Is there anyone on this forum who has lived around and hung out with other flamencos in a place such as canorroto, for as long as I have.
Is there anyone on this forum who has had no other job or studies for the last four years, other than playing flamenco guitar.
Is there anyone else on this forum that even speaks spanish, for the love of god.
Did El Entri issue an official document to anyone else that says He is an outstanding student, an example to the others?
If the answer is no, then what makes you think I am gonna let you get away with saying this **** to me.
This is your problem, your ego is too big.
You are not that good, both on technique and composition.
That doesn't matter, but show some respect the other guitarists.
And stop challenging everyone, flamenco is not a competition.
Btw what was "prof"diaz his username here on the foro? I never saw him around here.
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Date Apr. 21 2010 8:52:27
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Stu
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Joined: Jan. 30 2007
From: London (the South of it), England
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RE: @ GuitarristaMadrid (in reply to yohan)
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I wondered when this would happen?! 
this was on the cards from day one as far as I could see......
a point that jumped out at me here was...
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we would even react same to paco de lucia himself, if he would talk the same sh!t like you are doing
@ Gitaristamadrid, it doesnt matter who or what you are, all people want is some mature, courteous, respectful behaviour like anyone would want anywhere and most of your posts (the few I bothered to glance at) all seemed a little LOUD and childish for me and probably most of the members here.
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Is there anyone on this forum who has studied with a universally acknowledged flamenco master for as long as I have.
Is there anyone on this forum who has been playing eight hours or more a day for years, as I have.
Is there anyone on this forum who has been studying tocar solo, tocar por baile tocar por cante y tocar palmas under the strictest guidance of such a master, on a near daily basis, for years.
Is there anyone on this forum who has lived around and hung out with other flamencos in a place such as canorroto, for as long as I have.
Is there anyone on this forum who has had no other job or studies for the last four years, other than playing flamenco guitar.
Is there anyone else on this forum that even speaks spanish, for the love of god.
Did El Entri issue an official document to anyone else that says He is an outstanding student, an example to the others?
If the answer is no, then what makes you think I am gonna let you get away with saying this **** to me.
and the above is absolute bile!!!
so what if the answer is "NO", so what if you've done all these things more than anyone here???
naughty children still need to spanked!!!!!
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Date Apr. 21 2010 9:24:37
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Jamey
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Joined: Jul. 7 2004
From: Winnipeg, Canada
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RE: @ GuitarristaMadrid (in reply to guitarristamadrid)
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Is there anyone on this forum who has lived life 1/1000th as fully as Trent Reznor?
[sigh]
Yes, some of us have, grew up and managed to survive it in order to move on (while many of my friends/acquaintances didn't make it). Simon (Escribando) can speak to this as well as anyone on this forum (myself included). I wasn't into the industrial scene (my mess was the punk and hardcore scenes through the early-mid 80's up to the early 90's). Trent's appearance of genius has more to do with the repackaging and re-presentation of Skinny Puppy material. The brooding delivery is what tends to catch those harboring anger/frustration within and they identify with either him or what he's written (or both). Self loathing doesn't produce much other than a spectacle for others if conducted in the public eye. Trent wasn't the first, in fact, it can arguably be said that Johnny Cash wrote that book long before Trent (luckily Rick Ruben had the good sense to get Cash in the end to cover "Hurt" resulting in a video that easily stands as the man's epitaph).
I'm guessing you're younger than I am and are obviously emphatic about your interests, what they mean to you, and how they comprise your sense of identity. That's fantastic, don't ever lose that nor allow yourself to be jaded out and away from that enthusiasm. But, also know that you aren't the only one to have "discovered" what you're currently devoted to (nor is the passion you've obtained new nor unique to you alone) and that in time, what you know and understand WILL necessarily expand further, that this will give you added insight into your own past conduct and adamantly held views. You will start to recognize some of the opinions of others as becoming more aligned with your own. In essence, you'll evolve and see the point of view of others a little more readily. This doesn't mean complacency nor conformity, just empathy, clarity and maturity (not talking 'old' here).
Reznor is in a different place now and is (apparently) sober, clear, and creative again (without the nihilism). When I met him, he was humble if not self-depreciating, still abrasive and non-conformist, but not arrogant. If you want to idolize him, or (more likely) adamantly revere him, perhaps it would be best if you tried to model your presentation of yourself to be more in tune with how he carried himself (at that point in the late 80's when I met him).
Conceit and arrogance don't work. They're often the person trying just as hard to convince themselves as others (essentially talking themselves up in an effort to stay emboldened and "fired up"). It's awesome that you're having the experiences that you are (being in Madrid with such a fine teacher), and I'd love to hear more about the experiences and what you've learned from them, but lording it over others with a tinge of derision and belittlement doesn't bode well. In the end, no one has to accept you, no one has to "take you as you are". They can all choose to ignore you completely, if not wall you out completely. That would be sad and not likely indicative of the kind of person you actually are. You have a lot to contribute. Perhaps try to do so without all of the aforementioned slights or condescension. I think people will grow to appreciate you for it. I know I would.
- Jamey
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Date Apr. 21 2010 10:03:30
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srshea
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Joined: Oct. 29 2006
From: Olympia, WA in the Great Pacific Northwest
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RE: @ GuitarristaMadrid (in reply to gj Michelob)
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Aw, great, a buncha forners tellin’ me what dude means!
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ORIGINAL: gj Michelob
“dude” is indeed a cowboy term, originally meaning “chief” or “boss”.
Wooooah, now hold on there, Eyetallian Stallion! Maybe that’s what it means over in yer fancypants Yurup with yer spaghetti westerns and whatnot, but not over here!
In its original meaning a “dude” was a fancy man, someone with an “unmanly” concern for his manner of dress. Someone who’s getting dressed up fancy for a night on the town might be said to be getting “all duded up”.
When it moved out to the ol’ west, the term came to represent a city slicker from the east with his fancy new lady lookin’ boots and such. A “dude ranch” is a touristy representation of a real western ranch where city folk can go vicariously live the life of a cowboy for the weekend.
So, in its original usage, dude definitely carried a mild pejorative connotation, but has now become a totally benign term that’s just a synonym for “man” or “guys” or whatever.
At this point in time I think that most people say “dude” with a slight hint of irony. Since its revival in so-cal surfer culture (think Bill and Ted, or Sean Penn in Fast Times) it’s taken on a kind of “dumb” connotation. So when someone sez “Hey, dude.” to a friend, there’s usually a subtle, self conscious quotation mark around the word, a recognition that it’s a bit of an affectation to call someone “dude”, unless you actually are a Bill and Ted-style dumbass, in which case you probably use the term free of any irony……
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Well, nothing......except this Table Lamp...
Are you sure, Ron? Sure you couldn't use a nice paddle game? Maybe a chair?
Alright, chillout, dudes.....
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Date Apr. 21 2010 10:32:12
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