Welcome to one of the most active flamenco sites on the Internet. Guests can read most posts but if you want to participate click here to register.
This site is dedicated to the memory of Paco de Lucía, Ron Mitchell, Guy Williams, Linda Elvira, Philip John Lee, Craig Eros, Ben Woods, David Serva and Tom Blackshear who went ahead of us.
We receive 12,200 visitors a month from 200 countries and 1.7 million page impressions a year. To advertise on this site please contact us.
|
|
RE: Doctor Compas Public Beta Version
|
You are logged in as Guest
|
Users viewing this topic: none
|
|
Login | |
|
Erik van Goch
Posts: 1787
Joined: Jul. 17 2012
From: Netherlands
|
RE: Doctor Compas Public Beta Version (in reply to JasonMcGuire)
|
|
|
Sevillanas has many faces and the only thing that's for sure is that it ends on 4th beat (one way or the other). As far as the opening is concerned i can't picture a guitar beginning on 4th beat. Sure, the dancing itself starts on 4th beat and in a dancing school situation that would be the obvious place to start, but during a performance they already enjoyed a hole introduction from the guitar/singer before they reach that point. Like all music Sevillanas is based on the tension between a tonic chord (1th chord of the scale) and it's dominant chord (in this case either the II or the V chord of the scale) for instance ffe,eee (123,456) >>> accents on 1 and 4, chord drops (silently) at 3. If you include the complete guitar introduction you can start both on the tonic chord (e) or it's dominant (f). If you start on the dominant you can play ffe,eee (starting on 1th beat with a chord and/or a colpe) , if you prefer to open with the tonic chord you can play ee-ffe,eee (starting on the 5th beat). As far as Seguiriyas is concerned the "old school" 5 beat pattern for me is it's soul and spirit. I don't think you can replace that feeling by considering it to be a Bulerias beginning on 8 by nature. Seguiriyas: 1-2-3--4--5- Bulerias: 8-10-12--3--6- Regarding the similar pattern i can understand the temptation but there is a difference. Bulerias happens to be a "12" beat pattern by nature, but performed full speed it's much more easy to think in larger patters like 12-3/6-8-10 Both parts can be extended to fit the needs of the moment: 12--3--6--9-- >>>>> 12-2-4-6-8-10- >>>>> Both sequences end with a concluding 6-8-10. Seguiriyas on the other hand is not a 12 beat pattern by nature but a 5 beat patten with an extended 3th and 4th beat. In stead of the rather vague 12345 and for detailed study you can sub-devide it into 1 and 2 and 3 and a 4 and a 5 (and) 1-2-3--4--5(-) accents may occur on 3 and 5 This magnification however should not structurally result in "oh, let's count it like an alternative bulerias than", because it isn't. Bulerias is a 12 beat pattern by nature and Seguiriyas isn't. Obviously when Seguiriyas speeds up both can become pretty entangled. On the long term cross-vertilization and evolution might bring them even closer together.
|
|
|
REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |
Date Jul. 17 2012 22:16:19
|
|
New Messages |
No New Messages |
Hot Topic w/ New Messages |
Hot Topic w/o New Messages |
Locked w/ New Messages |
Locked w/o New Messages |
|
Post New Thread
Reply to Message
Post New Poll
Submit Vote
Delete My Own Post
Delete My Own Thread
Rate Posts
|
|
|
Forum Software powered by ASP Playground Advanced Edition 2.0.5
Copyright © 2000 - 2003 ASPPlayground.NET |
0.078125 secs.
|