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estebanana

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to ngiorgio

I'm composing a Flamencopera on this Andelusional theme, you can check it out at :

Flamencomediadelarte.com/poopybuttdiaz

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 11:33:54
 
Arash

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to Florian

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ORIGINAL: Florian

quote:

Mr.Floro I've heard from people you are still a beginner and never have been to Andalusia before as my teacher Capo de Lucia says.

Lets see who plays the fastes picado on the g-string.


its a bit soft ...take a couple of words out ...almost a compliment

u not gonna get a whole forum on your back in 5 minutes with that kind of sorry attempt


If KOZZ is with Andalusian Guitars or not, that I really don’t know,nor it is important to me,but that he is a great flamenco player, and definitively superior to any of you in any palo, status,etc,that’s for sure, so who cares if you like him or not?...,who knows you?...besides your family members…

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XXX

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to Arash

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arash

quote:

ORIGINAL: Deniz

Flo i find you behaviour very suspicious. Do you envy me?
Btw you can see an Amir at 5:48. But i dont know if he is the composer of the post of "Amirdeiran".


POLITICS !

If this guitars are factory made in mexico or in china,why here sells for thousands of Euros in la Sonanta?

Sorry but, I have the eyes opened.

Tanguillito de Iran



I will not respond to such a snobbish opinion!

Can you play like this?!!


Or like this?!?!


Or like this?!?!


Or like this?!?!


My teacher taught me playing both handed! I am better than you !

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 11:34:15
 
Florian

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to Florian

I love those how to choose your flamenco guitar videos ...my proces is very simple and it works 80% of the time guaranteed everytime...look at the price tag...


anyway i am leaving u guys are getting a litlle too close too good at the insults practice

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 11:34:51
 
kozz

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to Florian

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u not gonna get a whole forum on your back in 5 minutes with that kind of sorry attempt


I am sorry man, I just can't insult anybody and I am lauging my pants of...

quote:

Kozz delivers flamenco webcam and video courses worldwide


I was trying to...but I kept on laughing


I still got a Juan Hernandez guitar for sale...I shall ask Ruben, and make a big profit of it
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 11:38:07
 
Arash

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to XXX

quote:

ORIGINAL: Deniz

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arash

quote:

ORIGINAL: Deniz

Flo i find you behaviour very suspicious. Do you envy me?
Btw you can see an Amir at 5:48. But i dont know if he is the composer of the post of "Amirdeiran".


POLITICS !

If this guitars are factory made in mexico or in china,why here sells for thousands of Euros in la Sonanta?

Sorry but, I have the eyes opened.

Tanguillito de Iran



I will not respond to such a snobbish opinion!

Can you play like this?!!


Oder like this?!?!


Oder like this?!?!


Oder like this?!?!


My teacher taught me playing both handed! I am better than you !


I already knew that in this foro flamenco for tourists, my teacher KOZZ is not welcomed, he is too good to be welcomed, I observed that here as well as in GSI, people prefer rather to talk and praise mediocre players, therefore its not appealing to me to be sincere.

So please forgive my taste for real guitar and guitars
and be happy with your great achievements.

I regret to pay more than $6,000 euro for a Conde guitar top of the line, that I personally bought in Spain in their store /with a lot of defects,(impared holes on the bridge, wrong tuning etc.) as shown here http://www.condehermanos.com

and of course this guitar is -made in Spain-
and so what?

Therefore, only thing that matters to me is quality…
Undeniable quality, that speaks for itself…
I believe in quality, not in “made in” guitars
If a great guitar is made in China, Ole China!…

Tanguillito de Iran

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 11:39:36
 
gj Michelob

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to Arash

quote:

if you type andalusian guitars in google, now the new thread "Andalusian guitars are made in mexico" appears on first page of google on second position right after homepage of AG.


Counterintelligence, an impeccably British tradition.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 11:43:25
 
Florian

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to kozz

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quote:

u not gonna get a whole forum on your back in 5 minutes with that kind of sorry attempt


I am sorry man, I just can't insult anybody and I am lauging my pants of...


the trick is to include everyone on your 1st insult...dont leave any bystanders !!! get everyone involved...u wanna get everyone in one clean sweep so there no confusion on who on your side...u dont want anyone in the midlle or undecided...u want everyone against you from the second you walk in.....sometimes theres guys sitting on the fence trying to be fair and open mined......u wanna watch out for those...yes get them too

so that first insult has to make everyone fell uncomfortabile and like u refering to them too..VERY IMPORTANT

Edit..almost forghot...even new members on their first day



thats how it works you amature

quote:

I still got a Juan Hernandez guitar for sale...I shall ask Ruben, and make a big profit of it

[I still got a Juan Hernandez guitar for sale...I shall ask Ruben, and make a big profit of it
I still got a Juan Hernandez guitar for sale...I shall ask Ruben, and make a big profit of it


ruben is that you ?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 11:46:30
 
kozz

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to Florian

quote:

thats how it works you amature


Hahaha,
I am re-reading his posts again....there must be a serious twist in his brain, to think and act like that...
I cant even copy-paste that and change some words.


I still got a Juan Hernandez guitar for sale...I shall ask Ruben, and make a big profit of it





But now I am gonna try some very duende seguiriyas falsetta....muy muy muy bien
http://www.youtube.com/user/payohumberto#p/u/228/hB17gkeQ3oY
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 11:55:45
 
XXX

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to Florian

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ORIGINAL: Florian
the trick is to include everyone on your 1st insult...dont leave any bystanders !!! get everyone involved...u wanna get everyone in one clean sweep so there no confusion on who on your side...u dont want anyone in the midlle or undecided...u want everyone against you from the second you walk in.....sometimes theres guys sitting on the fence trying to be fair and open mined......u wanna watch out for those...yes get them too


OMG aahhh, dammit! laughing cramp
"yes get them too" - LOOOL
ok im out before getting injured.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 11:59:21
 
srshea

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to Florian

quote:


now practice some insults


Twenty –sixth president of the United States, Theodore Roosevelt, was a man of many talents. Insulting people was one of them. Read and learn, folks:

"Infernal skunk"

"Classical ignoramus"

"Little emasculated mass of inanity"

"Having a mind that functions at six guinea-pig power"

"Thorough-paced scoundrel"

"Fragrant man-swine"

I think that last one's my favorite.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 12:01:52
 
srshea

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to srshea

Come to think of it, most of those insults are pretty old-school, so you nuevos probably wont like 'em......
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 12:03:56
 
Arash

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to srshea

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ORIGINAL: srshea

Come to think of it, most of those insults are pretty old-school, so you nuevos probably wont like 'em......


as always mentioned, i like both, traditional and modern , thanks for the lesson



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 12:10:03
 
srshea

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to Arash

quote:


as always mentioned, i like both, traditional and modern , thanks for the lesson


Nope! Sorry, can't have it both ways. It's either one or the other!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 12:13:16
 
Florian

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to estebanana

ready for part 2 of how to conduct a succesfull guitar selling campaign ?

Now that you insulted everyone ...u got their attention...EVERYone is gonna wanna know what u gonna say next...

SO u have to make them question everything they think they know about anything and everything...they gonna wonder how they got this far in life..

if someone asks about the bees you talk about the birds and vice versa..u risk losing all if you make sence for even one second !! or it appears like you acctualy read what anyone said !!! and for the love of god dont agree with anyone or relate to anything...thats a big no no in our game...these people are not your equal...they are weak dumb westerners who lived a protected life all their lifes...they are up for grabs

remember they are nobody...not worth knowing their opinion!



dumb people with low self esteeme dont talk back or ask questions...this step is also very important...not quite as important as step one the insulting...but its up there..


Listening to others opinions is a sign of weakness.... dont do it

btw...u can insult people and say the most outrageous things...as long as you put a Mr before his / her name you have remained polite and professional



this is too much fun ...anyway enough from me...i am having so much fun ...i must be doing somethig wrong or braking some rule or forum etnicquette

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 12:14:28
 
kovachian

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to srshea

quote:

"Infernal skunk"

"Classical ignoramus"

"Little emasculated mass of inanity"

"Having a mind that functions at six guinea-pig power"

"Thorough-paced scoundrel"

"Fragrant man-swine"
I don't appreciate these inferior insults, what makes you think you are an authority on this? Or any of you for that matter? Are any of YOU a disciple of Capo dee Loothia?

I think not.

But you can prove your worthiness anyway. I want you to fabricate a harmonic analysis of Capo dee Loothia's innovations, and you have 5 days to report back. Today is Thursday Feb 11, you have until Tuesday Feb 16.

I await the fruits of your impeccable authority.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 12:15:56
 
Estevan

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to Florian

Mr. Floro, Mr. Ashar, it's incredible that you are wasting time with this politically-motivated gossip when you can - and should- be practising:


This is a lesson for beginners and everyone -can and should- try to play this piece

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 12:18:26
 
srshea

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to kovachian

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I await the fruits of your impeccable authority.


Me thinks I detect the fragrant emanation of a man-swine in our midst.

Your slanderous reproach is beneath comment.

Good day, sir.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 12:20:46
 
Florian

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to Estevan

quote:

“My Way” flamenco guitar lessons Toronto (for beginners)



HAHAHA genius !! appropiate title

so do you think he liked the song or loved the title first

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 12:21:42
 
Escribano

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to gj Michelob

quote:

Counterintelligence, an impeccably British tradition.


With American help, as always

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 12:30:20
 
Escribano

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to Arash

quote:

if you type andalusian guitars in google, now the new thread "Andalusian guitars are made in mexico" appears on first page of google on second position right after homepage of AG.

so people will automatically visit foroflamenco, after been on the website of AG to have "more info"..... lol


You're right, that thread is number two but the number one will slide as the original message was deleted. I have fixed the code and that number two link should point here from Google now.

Unfortunately, given the way Google works, it may take some time for us to drop below the Andalusian Guitars web site. Sadly, we might even be number one tomorrow.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 12:43:26
 
srshea

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to srshea

quote:

Your slanderous reproach is beneath comment.


Oops. Clearly I meant to say libelous, not slanderous. The cross fire got so heated there that I lost my wits for a moment.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 12:46:54
 
gj Michelob

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to Escribano

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With American help, as always


.... and now we are US based... USA USA USA !!!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 13:01:35
 
Escribano

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to gj Michelob

quote:

.... and now we are US based... USA USA USA !!!


Now don't go and spoil it.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 13:15:39
 
bursche

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to Escribano

Holy crap and holy moly cow!

The empire strikes back!
I googled Andalusian guitars: They're made in Mexico according to one source.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 13:36:28
 
Estevan

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to bursche

quote:

I googled Andalusian guitars: They're made in Mexico according to one source.
But is it reliable?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 14:55:21
 
Estevan

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to Florian

quote:

quote:[Prof. Diaz:]

“My Way” flamenco guitar lessons Toronto (for beginners)


[Maestro Florian:]
HAHAHA genius !! appropiate title

so do you think he liked the song or loved the title first


The important point:

quote:

Although some times people attribute this kind of rumba arrangements to “Gipsy Kings” (1987),actually it was 18 years before them that Paco de Lucia innovated with the idea of playing Cuban, South American & popular songs of any country, into rumba flamenca on his 1969 LP entitled:

Paco de Lucia en Hispanoamérica.


So, Paco invented - or rather, innovated - the idea of playing any old pop song as a rumba, then the Gipsy Kings picked it up, and finally these guys perfected it:



I know, you've seen it before - but it's definitely worth a replay.


(Note the hand-made guitar, Condeng Walís)

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 15:03:53
 
Estevan

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to Escribano

Note to Admin:

Could you move this thread to the Off-Topic Product section where it belongs? This recurring theme threatens to take over too much of an otherwise excellent foro, and needs a safe corner to itself, somewhere out of the way where it won't interfere with actual flamenco/music talk. [N.B. In my opinion...]

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 15:37:21
 
sean65

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to estebanana

quote:

Could you move this thread to the Off-Topic Product section where it belongs? This recurring theme threatens to take over too much of an otherwise excellent foro, and needs a safe corner to itself, somewhere out of the way where it won't interfere with actual flamenco/music talk. [N.B. In my opinion...]


Here Here,.... Seems to have a cancer-like grip on some.

I mean, this guy is obviously not the 'full ticket', perhaps even worse, maybe he's a genuine 'care in the community fruitcake'. Some kind of 'special needs' guitarist who feeds off a lack of self preservation and dignity and enjoys public humiliation. This mercenary and relentless onslaught can't be good.

Here in the UK we pride ourselves on our fair and equal society(sic). In fact, EVERYBODY is welcome. I'm sure if we tried, we could squeeze in one more deluded soul.

So send him over here, we'll take care of him. Hell, we'll probably give him a council house and some social security benefits with regular free consultations at the local clinic.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 11 2010 22:36:57
 
DonS

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RE: Andalusian Guitars at Acoustic G... (in reply to Estevan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Estevan




I know, you've seen it before - but it's definitely worth a replay.


(Note the hand-made guitar, Condeng Walís)


still cracks me up..
oh man I played a "Condeng Walis" while I was in Manila last November 09
i was also tempted to buy a guitar in Cebu but didn't get the chance to go oh well..maybe this year. I'm sure if the Conde bros in Madrid were to contract some Cebuano builders it would come out pretty Conderific™!!
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