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Arash

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From: Iran (living in Germany)

RE: who is behind "Andalusian G... (in reply to amirdeiran

just look at the style he is writing and the request for a "3 day challenge" !
this is the exact copy of Ruben !

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this guy is unbelievable.
now offending another fellow iranian (the other amir) without any reason.
you can talk to me like that but why him ?


"amir de iran", if you (You! not your teacher.....ehmm, wait, are you both the same person ? ;-) can play this in 3 days



i will give you one lesson "how to make iranian kabab" for free



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bursche

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RE: who is behind "Andalusian G... (in reply to Escribano

Sad thing is that those still unknown builders behind "Andalusian Guitars"
are maybe even better off with rather cheap marketing than those honest builders who ask the price their guitars are worth or even less than that.
All of that really seems to depend on random endorsement.

There are those who ask 4000$ for a really decent master grade guitar and those who ask 12000$, 21000$ for theirs. Of course this topic is discussed frequently here and I do not claim to contribute any final adjudgement about it, but for what the hell am I paying if it is not even for the prestigious luthier's name on the paper inside.

"Sobrinos de Esteso" is prestigious.

But without this discussion here I would never have heard of "Andalusian Guitars". I would probably not have noticed that such a name refers to an actual brand, because there is no luthier's name.

My next guitar will be one of those honest builders I can idealize for their hard work!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 7 2010 3:32:29
 
Escribano

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RE: who is behind "Andalusian G... (in reply to Arash

quote:

just look at the style he is writing and the request for a "3 day challenge" !
this is the exact copy of Ruben !


Umm, got me curious too, so I have to ask amirdeiran why your first post on this forum:

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=111624&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=&tmode=&smode=&s=#111624

is the same content as posted by a Ruben Diaz on these other forums in May/June last year:

http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=000031
http://www.guitarsalon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10988

No posts from you since that day until now, when you leap to the "defence" of Ruben.

Right now, I believe that these posts are from the same person, who is in need of some classes on Internet marketing strategies and the power of the community.

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HolyEvil

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RE: who is behind "Andalusian G... (in reply to Mike_Kinny

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mike_Kinny

quote:

I am not that person in youtube thanks to heaven…


Are you saying that you can play better than him?


he better (and maybe upload a video to prove it?)..
cuz i was gonna reply and complement him on his playing..
but he ain't this youtube guy..
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Arash

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RE: who is behind "Andalusian G... (in reply to Arash

quote:

ORIGINAL: amirdeiran (foroflamenco)

For the lovers of Camaron and Paco,I hope you enjoy it, and feel the joyfulness of Cadiz…..




quote:

ORIGINAL: rubendiaz (guitarsalon)

For the lovers of Camaron and Paco,I hope you enjoy it, and feel the joyfulness of Cadiz…..



oops !!!



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 7 2010 4:01:30
 
Arash

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RE: who is behind "Andalusian G... (in reply to bursche

bursche, if you would want to sell your Sanchis Lopez Pau Ferro, let me know btw. thanks

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Florian

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RE: who is behind "Andalusian G... (in reply to Arash

quote:

Can you please explain this?



ops busted


i cant think of anything more pathetic then logging in to a forum under a different name to give yourself compliments...

pretty..... pretty...pretty sad

"Amir" quick say something in persian

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 7 2010 4:12:59
 
Mike_Kinny

 

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RE: who is behind "Andalusian G... (in reply to Escribano

quote:


is the same content as posted by a Ruben Diaz on these other forums in May/June last year:


They are not the same. At least the signatures are different.

Seriously, I also found this sentence from amirdeiran's previous post:
"People that really do things and people that talks about those who really do things… "

repeated here by Ruben:
http://www.guitarworld.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=73820&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=15#p894281
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 7 2010 4:17:45
 
Arash

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RE: who is behind "Andalusian G... (in reply to Florian

quote:

ORIGINAL: Florian

quote:

Can you please explain this?



ops busted again


i cant think of anything more pathetic then logging in to a forum under a different name to give yourself compliments...

pretty..... pretty sad


maybe even amirdeiran knows about this and accepted to give "full control" of his account to Ruben for some free lessons. who knows. all things are possible with this guy. i am baffled . this is all too much

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 7 2010 4:18:44
 
Arash

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RE: who is behind "Andalusian G... (in reply to Florian

quote:

ORIGINAL: Florian

"Amir" quick say something in persian


that doesn't help.
he could do the same thing you did with me on your facebook.
he could ask the "amir" to translate


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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 7 2010 4:22:24
 
Florian

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RE: who is behind "Andalusian G... (in reply to Arash

quote:

all things are possible with this guy


i am starting to see that..


the chances of 2 different guys saying the same thing word for word.. one from iran and one from .........i have no idea where he is ...wherever are pretty pretty slim


theres defenetly something...observant call

And dont tell me because he looks up to him cause i look up to plenty of people but i dont quote anyone word for word

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 7 2010 4:23:47
 
Arash

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RE: who is behind "Andalusian G... (in reply to Arash

Time for a new thread: Who is behind "Amir de Iran"?

don't worry Simon j/k

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 7 2010 4:25:43
 
bursche

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RE: who is behind "Andalusian G... (in reply to Arash

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bursche, if you would want to sell your Sanchis Lopez Pau Ferro, let me know btw. thanks


So far I'm not planning to do so, because I can't afford one of Anders's Blancas right now, but Maybe within this year I can (At least I can dream of it). Will be difficult to give away my Sanchis, though. I really love it's sound.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 7 2010 4:26:53
 
Escribano

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RE: who is behind "Andalusian G... (in reply to bursche

This thread is now drifting aimlessly. The manufacturers, promoters and
supporters of these guitars are not willing to respond to the core question
posed by this thread and reveal "who is behind the Andalusian Guitars". It
is time to lock the thread, but it will be preserved under a new Forum topic
"Product Reviews" [to introduce and promote or review and comment on products].
It will serve as good reference material regarding these instruments, in the
internet library.

Of course, as this question remains unanswered, it may lead to adverse
inferences about the guitars, leaving behind legitimate doubts and
speculations. Therefore, we invite those who are promoting these guitars to
dispel the negative perception they have conjured on the foro, by providing
answers and more information about their products.

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