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Estevan

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From: Torontolucía

Tomatito guitars

These are advertised as a collaboration between Tomatito and two great luthiers, Juan Miguel Gonzalez and Vicente Carrillo. All three of them sign the souvenir labels, but the two guitarreros live quite far away from each other so how does that work?
Is it Gonzalez's design, made in Carrillo's factory? Or did they design them together (in a bar, following Tomatito's "hey guys, you know what kind of guitar I like...") and then get them hand-made in a factory conveniently located somewhere in between e.g. Muro de Alcoy, or what?

I'm just curious as to how this kind of collaboration works.

http://www.tomatito.org/en_index.html

(And what is "lamitaded imitation cypress" - the last one in the catalogue???)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 22 2010 12:54:13

kovachian

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RE: Tomatito guitars (in reply to Estevan)

Tomatito personally inspecting every single guitar? Yea right.

And that "lamitaded imitation cypress" is a jargled way of saying what could laminated sycamore, or some other similar-looking species.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 22 2010 13:37:29

Estevan

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RE: Tomatito guitars (in reply to kovachian)

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Tomatito personally inspecting every single guitar? Yea right.

Aw come on, I'm sure he has Skype....

quote:

And that "lamitaded imitation cypress" is a jargled way of saying what could laminated sycamore, or some other similar-looking species.

Probably ...but it would have been better to say 'sycamore' because 'imitation' makes it sound like some kind of plastic!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 22 2010 14:07:22

ddk

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From: California

RE: Tomatito guitars (in reply to Estevan)

It's always the same with these guys. They want us to buy their guitars, but they still use their Condes, Reyes, etc...

I don't fault them for making a living, but I'm highly sceptical about these things.
As much as I admire Tomatito and PdL, I wouldn't buy one of "their" guitars.

Suerte

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 22 2010 15:40:57

HolyEvil

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From: Sydney, Australia

RE: Tomatito guitars (in reply to Estevan)

on the other hand these luthiers Juan Miguel Gonzalez and Vicente Carrillo don't they make quality guitars?

if they do make quality guitars, then it's safe to presume this line of tomatito guitars are pretty good as well? not the lowest laminated versions of course.. maybe the equivalent of their 2A and above?

just speculation on my part..

cheers

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 22 2010 17:47:25

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Tomatito guitars (in reply to ddk)

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It's always the same with these guys. They want us to buy their guitars, but they still use their Condes, Reyes, etc...

Well, Tomatito plays a Gonzales blanca, so it isnt completely far out.

lamitaded imitation cypress, sounds really cheesy, Do they also use "ebonized fingerboards"?
All models are finished with polyurethane which IMHO is the worst, thickest, most plastic like finish on the market

In total, one more example of Spanish business policy that i find very difficult to accept. Why dont thery just build some good guitars and sell them without all this hype and thats it. But maybe Carillo needs to change name, since PdL doesnt sell so well anymore?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2010 1:27:10

ashod

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RE: Tomatito guitars (in reply to Estevan)

Rofl. And here I was thinking of buying the tomatito one... Thank god i made a detour by the luthiery section.

about the polyurethane, is it something all guitars get at that price range?

Anders : could you maybe check my thread in the general section and tell me which one you see best just by their specs as a luthier?

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=124440&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1

Wish I had more euros to buy one of your "growlers".

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2010 3:35:45

BarkellWH

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From: Washington, DC

RE: Tomatito guitars (in reply to Estevan)

Before Tomatito, there was the Paco de Lucia model. Vicente Carrillo worked with Paco's brother Ramon de Algeciras on that one. I had a PDL 1a model negra made to my specifications and it is great. Spruce soundboard with Madagascar Rosewood sides and back. It sounds great and the setup is superb. Based on my experience, I would highly recommend Vicente Carrillo's guitars, at least the higher end models.

Cheers,

Bill

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2010 5:46:37

Doitsujin

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RE: Tomatito guitars (in reply to Estevan)

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Based on my experience, I would highly recommend Vicente Carrillo's guitars, at least the higher end models.

As many people already know... I made also my experiences with vicente Carillo guitars. The Paco guitar I owned was indian palisander also best model. (Just not the fancy jacaranda wood...)

Well,.. these guitars are good quality. But they dont fit on every player.

I would only recommend them to players with heavy hands who play with much power or most of the time with mic.

What you should also know about the anatomy of these guitars is, that they have a very bold neck and the strings are much closer together than i.e. the standard as conde and co. and they are very heavy. As Marvi guitars.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2010 6:38:03

Ron.M

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RE: Tomatito guitars (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

quote:

Why dont thery just build some good guitars and sell them without all this hype and thats it.

Ooooh!....you just touched a raw nerve there!

Glad to see you are getting to that kinda age, Anders.

This feeling will grow over the years until you become Victor Meldrew..

(Why can't you get a decent, reliable service at a fair price, like in the old days?...without a heap of BS and hype and free offers etc..

)

And when things go wrong...nobody's interested.

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2010 10:30:17

Doitsujin

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RE: Tomatito guitars (in reply to Estevan)

As Im watching Wetten Dass..at the moment... I would directly buy without testing a guitar, played and signed by Michelle Hunziker..

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2010 12:50:15

Estevan

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RE: Tomatito guitars (in reply to Ron.M)

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Glad to see you are getting to that kinda age, Anders.

This feeling will grow over the years until you become Victor Meldrew..

Anders, in case you don't know who Victor Meldrew is, that's Ron's stage name.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2010 14:15:48

Estevan

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RE: Tomatito guitars (in reply to Doitsujin)

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As Im watching Wetten Dass..at the moment... I would directly buy without testing a guitar, played and signed by Michelle Hunziker..

Good choice, I'm sure it will have a well-rounded tone...

A really enterprising Spanish maker would get his guitars signed by Penelope Cruz; in fact I'm surprised the Spanish government hasn't already started such a project to increase exports.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2010 14:18:59