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minordjango

 

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spanish thangs ! 

hi folks ,
Guitar is well a little broken, like no more guitar fora while.


so i have turned my hand to some other things.........Spanish and cooking.

does anyone have some ideas/ recipes for cooking Spanish rice and paella ? any ideas be great (I love to cook) just havent tried to cook spanish food .

also spanish phrases what are your most useful phrases ? when your in spain ? ive been going strong with the Spanish lately love it.

cheers folks happy playing !
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 29 2009 15:07:46
 
fevictor

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RE: spanish thangs ! (in reply to minordjango

Great, now you have me thinking of my grandmothers cooking! Spanish food is really tasty and one of my many favorites. Theres a Spanish mayonnaise called alioli, and the way my family makes it is with garlic, egg yolk, salt and extra virgin olive oil. You'll need a mortar and pestle to make the garlic into a paste, add a pinch of salt, and egg yolk, and then its better to have someone else pour a very thin string of olive oil over the egg and garlic as your mixing with a spoon. Portions are all to taste. I always try to have some in the fridge. Spread some over a good steak, maybe with some parsley, a good red from the Rioja region, I like Marquez de Riscal.....yummy!

Paella is really good, but make sure you make enough "pa el"! (get it??)

Melon with jamon serrano is really tasty too. Actually, anything with jamon serrano is good. My mother makes a salad just with seedless watermelon, lemon juice and rinds and feta cheese. Thats it! You would be amazed at how good it tastes! just dont add salt - the cheese is salty enough.

Anchovies with garlic, olive oil and parsley, with queso manchego and fresh bread...ahh, this is torture...dinner is HOURS away!

Keep us posted! I am interested to know what you are cooking.

Vic
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 30 2009 5:29:21
 
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RE: spanish thangs ! (in reply to fevictor

Hmmmm just spent a lovely lunch drinking Marques de Riscal with jamon Serrano of course, and also chiperones fritos, small fried octopus, and alcochofas con almejas, artichokes with clams cooked in a white wine garlic sauce, and a spinach salad with pine nuts, raisins and yogurt dressing. Delicious !

Our neighbour just gave me her family recipe for almond cake. Will post it up here when I have deciphered it !!!

Most useful phrase.......... ma' vino por fa '

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 30 2009 6:28:22
 
fevictor

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RE: spanish thangs ! (in reply to minordjango

You want a useful phrase to use while in Spain?

"lo siento, no sabia que era tu esposa!!"
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RE: spanish thangs ! (in reply to minordjango

In Andalucía, I use these a lot...
"buena' [dia']"
"otro tubo, por favor"
"¿que debo?"
"brrrr, hace friquito"
"¡tan calor!"
"¿otra vez los cohetes?"
"má' o meno'"

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 30 2009 9:09:51
 
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RE: spanish thangs ! (in reply to minordjango

thanks Vic and others, actually why is the ingrediendents so remind me of Greece >

feta , gosh that stuffs Salty, no matter after Ouzo

i really have to get some version of paella up , i guess its the foreign person to Spain ideal !.

its like cooking kung pao chicken in china , or chana masala in india.

I love cooking!. so paella it is im jst thinking has any one any first hand expierence ??
if i could access you tube id watch a vid.

the spanish phrases cool , there is one or too id love to sort out . Exactly my grammar stinks.

I prefer chicken to lamb as its better for you ?

and i miss her very much as she is my good friend??

I dream about playing flamenco guitar ??

i can sort of say the above ? but still in asia cant practice them no one speaks spanish or English here

any other simple dishes for cooking fish ? .

cheers folks .
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Nov. 30 2009 22:18:08
 
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RE: spanish thangs ! (in reply to minordjango

Lots of paella recipes out there, most are not traditional (vs. Valencia). You can use a single large and deep frying pan. Remove skin from chicken and chop into pieces. If chopping through bone, remove any splinters or fragments. Best way to avoid the problem is to use boneless fillets (thigh better than breast). Brown the chicken in a bit of oil (this is important so get it good and brown in a small amount of oil) and set aside for now. In the same pan sauté chopped onion, along with chopped green pepper and a dash of paprika if you like. Add to the pan the water or broth that you're going to use to cook the rice. A ratio of three parts liquid to one part rice has worked best in the places where I've lived, although I see other proportions indicated in recipes and cooking instructions. Scrape the bottom of the pan with a fork or something to get the brown bits into the liquid. Add the rice (should sit on the bottom and not on top of the ingredients) and then the other ingredients: the browned chicken, pieces of squid or cuttlefish (the latter requires more cooking time so sauté it along with the onion), peas or green beans if you like, real saffron (99% of Spanish cooks use food coloring), garlic (makes a world of difference, and you can add it to the boiling water to avoid burning it in the oil), and some kind of bivalve (get the sand out of clams, clean the mussel shells, etc.) In the last 5-10 minutes, add peeled shrimp, making sure they end up cooked (just past the change from pink to white) and not overcooked.

Three important things: short-grain rice, proportion of liquid to rice (should be a tiny bit left that will be absorbed by the rice after turning off heat) and properly cooking all the ingredients (some will have to be sautéed with the onion).

There’s a bar in Madrid, near the Rastro, that includes freshly ground black pepper in their paella.

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mark indigo

 

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RE: spanish thangs ! (in reply to NormanKliman

here's a thing, "paella"

i have read that the "original" paella was made over a fire by field workers - they would build up a fire, put everything in, and then go back to work and leave it to cook, and as the fire died down it would simmer more and more gently (ie. turn the heat off at the end of cooking...)

as it was originally rural labourers they mostly used rabbit, chicken, and maybe snails, but NO seafood; green beans, but not peppers....

anyone got any good solid research information on this?!
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minordjango

 

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RE: spanish thangs ! (in reply to minordjango

hi folks ,
norm excellent , very precise info, i think i can give it a go !.

hey mark, thats interesting , i like the sound of that sounds very gitano to me.

when w wont be going to spain ntil march but i love to have an idea before i get there, maybe i can bribe a chief to show me , with a bottle of vino or similar !.

in Asia its been great going in the kitchen an doing it that way.

hungry now !
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 1 2009 4:47:10
 
Escribano

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RE: spanish thangs ! (in reply to mark indigo

Andalu' joke

Camarero: "¿Paella?"
Customer: "No, para mí"

Well, it used to get me a laugh

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 1 2009 9:57:03
 
Escribano

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Tortilla Española con Cebolla (in reply to minordjango

A few years ago in Granada, a question about how to make tortilla española led to an ad hoc supper party in the street. Like all things there, everyone has a different opinion and has to be heard.

Eventually, I lugged a gas burner into my garage and let them take over. They peeled and chopped everything with a small knife in their hands, no chopping board.

Here's how they made it:

1. Peel 4 large potatoes, placing the peel in a bag and the potatoes into a bowl of water.
2. Drain the potatoes and slice them into small pieces.
3. Add salt to taste then sweat them with a little olive oil in a covered pan for about 15 minutes on a low heat.
4. Peel and dice an onion and add to the pan, let the onions soften making sure the potatoes don't burn.
5. Whisk 6 eggs in a large bowl.
6. Dump the potatoes and onions into the egg mixture and stir it up into a kind of mush.
7. Pour mixture back into the pan (a non-stick frying pan is best) and turn up the heat. Do not cover.
8. Cook until the edges come free then place a plate over the tortilla and turn the lot upside down. Slide the tortilla back into the pan to cook the other side.

The surface should be golden but you can turn it over again until its browned. Leave to cool a little. Best served caliente with slices of cool melon or even nicer the next day after being chilled in the fridge.

Eat with your fingers.



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 1 2009 10:05:22
 
Pimientito

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RE: Tortilla Española con Cebolla (in reply to Escribano

Great stuff..one of the most simple and tasty recipes ever.
Make sure you use spanish onions...the small english ones are too strong
and EXTRA VIRGIN olive oil!

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RE: Tortilla Española con Cebolla (in reply to Escribano

Great, Escribano!

One of my favourites, having lived on it for three months in Madrid once, except for the occasional luxury of bocadillos de calimares and judias blancas con pan in the evening.

I still make it, only I think it really needs ajo to get that taste.
Never liked the addition of red or green peppers though, as some places do.

Turning it over is a great stylistic pleasure for guests, however placing the frying pan under a hot grill saves accidents at mid hurdle..(especially if a bit intoxicated on a good Rioja).

cheers,

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 1 2009 10:34:04
 
fevictor

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RE: spanish thangs ! (in reply to minordjango

Escribano that tortilla looks tasty! I for one love the taste of roasted red peppers on pretty much anything, even in hummus.

I was very unlucky, Paella-wise, when I was growing up. My grandfather was from Valencia, so every Sunday was Paella day for them. My dad got so sick eating paella that he pretty much forbade my mother to make it!! So only when he was out of town or when we were with my family in Mexico city could we eat paella, but it was always well worth the wait! My poor grandmother moved to Portugal during the civil war and knows famine all to well. When she ended up in Mexico and started a family, she swore to never again go through that or allow her kids to go to bed hungry. So needless to say, meals consisted of at least 5 different plates and there was no such thing as too much food.

My mother has literally hundreds of thousands of recipes, some almost completely faded now, all collected and passed down over the years from Spain to Mexico to Canada. My grandmother taught her a lot about Spanish cooking and my mom also used to teach Mexican cooking. Having a macho father at home who was used these kinds of meals, well, lets just say that we ate very, very well!

Of course I had to go and move out live off 99 cent Mr. Noodles packages for about a year until I started making some money!!

Vic
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RE: Tortilla Española con Cebolla (in reply to Escribano

Nice recipe!
I use more potatoes (about 6) with quite a lot of oil, i. e. I almost deep-fry 'em, and only 4 eggs ...

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RE: spanish thangs ! (in reply to Escribano

quote:

Camarero: "¿Paella?"
Customer: "No, para mí"


Off topic, not politically correct, but here goes (Southern US joke):
Two lush girls go to the photographer's. One of them's been there before.
"Now he's gonna focus", she explains.
"Bo'f us?" asks the other

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 2 2009 8:41:47
 
edguerin

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RE: spanish thangs ! (in reply to mark indigo

quote:

they mostly used rabbit, chicken, and maybe snails, but NO seafood; green beans, but not peppers

I recently read an article on this. Apparently they used to use all kinds of different beans, often without any meat at all. Rabbit and chicken yes but no seafood (the author stated that "Valencianos have always turned their backs to the sea ...")

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 2 2009 8:50:41
 
mark indigo

 

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RE: Tortilla Española con Cebolla (in reply to Escribano

quote:

Cook until the edges come free then place a plate over the tortilla and turn the lot upside down. Slide the tortilla back into the pan to cook the other side.


i have never been able to get the hang of this (however sober) as there always seems some runny eggy mix on top which dribbles everywhere when i turn it over and i usually resort to

quote:

placing the frying pan under a hot grill saves accidents at mid hurdle


any tips?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 3 2009 4:28:25
 
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RE: Tortilla Española con Cebolla (in reply to mark indigo

Mark,

I was lucky enough to get a Spanish chef to show me this in my own kitchen when I was living in student accommodation. (He was the husband of the daughter of an old couple who ran a basic (inexpensive) restaurant, just featuring good, old homemade broth and plain Scottish fare. The clientel were mainly students and others living in bedsitter land around the University. The daughter and husband lived in Spain, but had come to visit and were helping out. I used to try my Spanish out on him so got to know him.

He did as Edguerin and fried the potatoes in a lot of oil, then added the onions and garlic. He added a little drop of milk to the egg mixture too. ("thees make eet lighter..entiendes?" )

He then poured off practically all the oil and stirred in the egg mixture.

While it was cooking, he was constantly poking away at the centre with the fish slice, making holes to allow the uncooked mixture to fall through to the hot pan.

This cured the problem you spoke of and it was fairly solid when it came to turn it over.

When I'm making it for the family, I make mini individual tortillas of 2 eggs per person, using the "grill" method as this allows you to finish off to individual requirements, like adding slices of chorizo, peppers, tomato, mozarella cheese etc before sticking it under the grill and then serving decorated with olives like a pizza! Salad and crusty bread to accompany.

You just cook the potato/onion/garlic mix beforehand and keep on a plate ready for use.

Then it's just as quick to make as heating a pizza!

cheers,

Ron
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 3 2009 5:15:12
 
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RE: Tortilla Española con Cebolla (in reply to mark indigo

quote:

i have never been able to get the hang of this (however sober) as there always seems some runny eggy mix on top which dribbles everywhere when i turn it over


Mush the mixture well with the onions and potatoes, poke it as Ron suggests while it is cooking. It will be ready to turn over when the edges are coming free from the sides, with a little help from the spatula. It will may look more burned underneath than you would expect but this is part of the dish, it should be golden and somewhat browned. Also, try a bigger dish than the pan to turn it into. In Spain there are special dishes with a handle on the bottom for this purpose. I use a dinner plate with a towel and do it one quick movement. Then slide it back into the pan upside down.

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mark indigo

 

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RE: Tortilla Española con Cebolla (in reply to Ron.M

hmmm, tortilla-pizza - interesting concept!

thanks for tip, i make pretty good tortilla but always finish off under grill, and would like to get hang of "flip" method, so will try poking at the top
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RE: spanish thangs ! (in reply to minordjango

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Escribano that tortilla looks tasty!


just cooked it up worked a treat !!that about the 7 new recipe in as many days , cheers all
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RE: spanish thangs ! (in reply to minordjango

Never heard of it, but already can smell the sensation....thanks for the tip.
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