RE: Classical Strings vs Flamenco Strings

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mark indigo

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RE: Classical Strings vs Flamenco St... (in reply to Richard Jernigan)

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ORIGINAL: Ricardo

While you might find a best fit for a certain guitar, there is no such thing as "goldilocks" perfect strings.

Yep. Nor is there a ¨best¨guitar, for that matter. My favorite may not be the favorite of someone else.

no harm asking others for opinions and trying a few recommendations - there are so many brands and so many lines of strings it is a complete minefield, especially for beginners.

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mark indigo

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RE: Classical Strings vs Flamenco St... (in reply to Schieper)

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But I was surprised to "learn" how much difference it makes to align different strings with different guitars and different playing styles.

I have two Conde's, an A25R and an A26, different years. One guitar has extra hard strings on and the other normal/medium. The feel to play each one is about the same.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2017 14:07:29

mark indigo

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RE: Classical Strings vs Flamenco St... (in reply to heyjamesguesswhat)

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I'm also a fiddle player, and this reminds me of the "fiddle strings" rebranding done by certain otherwise reputable string makers on their steel core violin strings. Add five bucks and change the label art an shazam! fiddle strings.

Recognising that classical and flamenco guitars are different, and tweaking the strings accordingly is no bad thing in itself, especially if it actually works.

Interestingly the Savarez Tomatito flamenco strings are the exact same strings as the Savarez Cantiga Creation sets (I even had one set of Tomatito strings with the bass strings inside in individual Cantiga envelopes instead of the usual Tomatito envelopes).

From Stringbusters in the UK the Cantiga are about £1 cheaper per set, but I noticed at StringsByMail in the US the Tomatito were a $ or so cheaper.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2017 14:11:02

mark indigo

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RE: Classical Strings vs Flamenco St... (in reply to kitarist)

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I think there are mistakes in that chart.

didn't pick up on those mistakes etc. as difficult job to compare switching between tabs and writing post.... and I've gone so far as an excel sheet

I have kept notes for last couple of years as trying out different sets to get best match for guitars. I don't pay much attention to the numbers (tension or diameter) normally, just the sound, feel and intonation.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2017 14:28:36

Cervantes

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RE: Classical Strings vs Flamenco St... (in reply to mark indigo)

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ORIGINAL: mark indigo

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Right now I am using EJ46TT and I did notice they also do feel soft on my right hand which I kind of like.

I have used EJ46TT quite a bit, since I bought a guitar with them on it, and I liked the sound and feel of the guitar (which is why I bought it!). I quite like them, definitely a lot more than the so-called "flamenco" EJ25B strings.

If kitarist is right about the tension of the EJ25B flamenco set, then you are switching from high tension bass and trebles (EJ46TT) to medium/normal tension basses and high tension trebles (EJ25B).

EDIT: see above post for tension more info.

Mark,

I put the EJ25B E and B treble strings on last night. I only played about an hour so probably too soon to really tell, but so far I feel positive about these strings. My sense is that they are stiffer and higher tension than the EJ46TT and have more sustain and volume which is typical of carbon strings, but I like these better than other other carbon strings I have tried. My tremolo definitely felt easier and sounded more clear. I think I am going to put the EJ46TT on my old guitar to give them some more time although my new guitar is much better. While I was testing them out my wife said it sounded good (she didn't know I had changed strings) and that is something she says about once a year so that probably says more than what I could perceive.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2017 16:26:19

Schieper

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RE: Classical Strings vs Flamenco St... (in reply to mark indigo)

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Good tip cause I like the Tomatito set & I go crazy over bargains. :-)

Thanks

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 28 2017 8:48:31

hhmusic

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RE: Classical Strings vs Flamenco St... (in reply to kitarist)

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Savarez 540 red card

540r are just normal tension Alliance trebles (i.e. "fluorocarbon") paired with HT basses. If you don't like Alliance trebles, you are not going to like these.

Oops. That didn't sound right so I went to check my string packages in the drawer, and I had the number wrong, sorry.

I've been using the original 520 red card. As I understand it, this is an old string design. They've been around forever, but I hadn't really given them a shot till a couple of years ago, since I thought the new designs must be 'better.' Nope.

There's certainly no 'best' string, but these are def. one of my favorites. I'd recommend you give them a try.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 2 2017 4:58:08