Serrana by Melchor de Marchena

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kozz

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Joined: Feb. 26 2009
From: Eindhoven NL

Serrana by Melchor de Marchena

Hello,
I've put this part by Melchor de Marchena overhere:

Does anyone know if this is the same Serrana as Alain Faucher has transcribed in Melchor de Marchena - El duende gitano?
http://www.moltengold.com/cgi-bin/eBzget6A.pl?shop=shops/77/21/AffedisFl&trolley=510772&page=http://www.affedis.com/shopping/new_musicbooks2.html

thanks
koz

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 16 2009 0:35:51

kozz

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From: Eindhoven NL

RE: Serrana by Melchor de Marchena (in reply to kozz)

Just orderd the book, it'll probably is.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 16 2009 3:49:10

minordjango

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RE: Serrana by Melchor de Marchena (in reply to kozz)

I have an old recording (on a compilation cd) of this Track its anazing !!! let me know if you do track the score down,

im not sure what it is , but im totally in love with the old style playing no effects , just dig in and play , this is a killer piece a wonder if its the same one where thinking !!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 16 2009 9:06:33

cigany

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Joined: Jan. 30 2008
From: USA

RE: Serrana by Melchor de Marchena (in reply to kozz)

Yes, that's the song in the book. It's the one I like best too and learned it first. You can get a cassette from Affedis with all the songs in the book.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 16 2009 9:21:36

minordjango

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RE: Serrana by Melchor de Marchena (in reply to kozz)

poor alain i remember the days i did have a mastercard , and i got him to copy like 8 tapes of things for me , worked him to death, he was great with his time .

i havent the book, but i bought a cd once and it has like 6 or so tracks they are stunning, i cant believe many of us players not just flamenco all styles over look Marchena, M yet another genios of the guitar !!!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 16 2009 9:49:52

kozz

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From: Eindhoven NL

RE: Serrana by Melchor de Marchena (in reply to cigany)

Good to hear that it is in the book, I really like that song.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 16 2009 10:54:06

michel

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From: france

RE: Serrana by Melchor de Marchena (in reply to kozz)

hi
i'm also working on melchor de marchena's book, for some palos i'd like to hear melchor's version, the hispavox LP "guitarra gitana" isn't avaiable anymore and i can't find these tracks on his CD-compilations - any chance to hear these tracks anywhere?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 5 2009 23:35:34

kozz

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Joined: Feb. 26 2009
From: Eindhoven NL

RE: Serrana by Melchor de Marchena (in reply to michel)

Michel,
I bought the album via iTunes±
Melchor de Marchena - Centenario de Su Nacimiento 1907-2007

Most of them are on it, except from the Tientos en Petenera I believe

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 6 2009 0:26:52

michel

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From: france

RE: Serrana by Melchor de Marchena (in reply to kozz)

Thanx very much kozz
Faucher's Transcriptions are great, do you already got the book?
i would like to hear the siguiriya, because i don't really get the sense or the feeling of it. i learned his tanguillo de cadiz by ear, listening the CD many times, and it's a lot easier than faucher's complex (but very good) notation of the whole piece, maybe i'll also substitute some rasgueos with more common/easier amii-rasgueos... anyway have much fun with the book!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 6 2009 1:21:39

kozz

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From: Eindhoven NL

RE: Serrana by Melchor de Marchena (in reply to michel)

No probs.
Its a nice quality if you play a piece just by listening to it, I really envy people who can do that. I am miles away from that, but hey I am only touching the strings for almost a year now, who knows in about 10 years :)

Also the pieces from MDM are way above my head, but I can pick a few licks and time will tell when I am ready for it.

I like the Faucher transcriptions, and definately gonna get some more....Perhaps the Danzas Arabes will be the next

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 6 2009 2:14:05

michel

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From: france

RE: Serrana by Melchor de Marchena (in reply to kozz)

quote:

Also the pieces from MDM are way above my head, but I can pick a few licks and time will tell when I am ready for it.

you're not alone, i'm also "fighting" with the other pieces because i don't practice at all since weeks, i improvise the whole time with a rough and ugly tone, ...muy flamenco!

i also got the Danzas Arabes, a great book, but more difficult than melchor de marchena!
I invited el payo humberto to visit me as soon he comes back to Europe
uhuuu... the strings will smoke again, i'm looking forward!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 6 2009 3:05:14

kozz

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Joined: Feb. 26 2009
From: Eindhoven NL

RE: Serrana by Melchor de Marchena (in reply to michel)

quote:

I invited el payo humberto to visit me as soon he comes back to Europe

Thats just great man!
I love to meet him too. A great person with love for the art.

Have you seen the video where he explains "the-thumb-of-Melchor" and that tricky index finger?

quote:

i improvise the whole time with a rough and ugly tone, ...muy flamenco!

That's the way I also play most of the time. Learned a new bar from a falsetta and try to incorporate in something which I can play and try to expand it step by step.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 6 2009 21:01:25

michel

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From: france

RE: Serrana by Melchor de Marchena (in reply to kozz)

quote:

That's the way I also play most of the time. Learned a new bar from a falsetta and try to incorporate in something which I can play and try to expand it step by step.

that's the best way to improve your playing without loosing motivation.
it's good to find a compromise between strictly learning (reading, memorizing, improving techniques) and playing "free", i mean creating a natural flow, a mirror of moods without thinking too much about possible mistakes, this works very well, especially when we didn't play for a few days and simply enjoy the sound of guitar with a glass of wine (like our Maestro

)