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kozz

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From: Eindhoven NL

Yet another hole

Well I was very nervous starting to get ready to get a soundport in my guitar.
At first I wanted it to try it on my old guitar, but I have put that one for sale, so it had to be perfect from the first time.

I've experienced a little bit with drilling on some wood and a calabas to get a feeling of it and eventually prepared the guitar, took a deep breath and .....

IT WORKED.....

I wanted to sand it with the Dremel but luckily I first tried it on the piece which was cut out and the Dremel sanded to quick to much, and therefore I used 600 sandpaper which worked just perfect.
Afterwords I used some Turbo glue to finish the edges and it look allright.

So now I'll be restringing the guitar again, which had to be done anyway because I had those Daddorio strings with black trebles, and I didn't like them.

Last time I had tried Luthier strings, which I liked, and now I am gonna put Conde Harmanos 735 strings on it.

I'll let you know if it worked out for me the same as for the other "hole-lovers"...

The diameter is 35mm.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 10 2009 3:41:59

Ron.M

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RE: Yet another hole (in reply to kozz)

This is rapidly becoming a "hole pandemic"!!

cheers,

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 10 2009 4:24:21

kozz

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From: Eindhoven NL

RE: Yet another hole (in reply to Ron.M)

RIVM in the Netherlands has already announced "the hole pandemic" and advises the stay in house and practice...
In the meanwhile I took the liberty to put some people to work and clean up the inside, and whilst doing that I could re-decorate the inside

But.... I like the soundport!!!

It's not as big difference as a thought it would be, and thats a good thing because I was afraid "all" the sound would come out of the hole and that it would feel unbalanced.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 10 2009 4:35:59

kozz

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RE: Yet another hole (in reply to kozz)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 10 2009 4:41:34

Florian

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RE: Yet another hole (in reply to kozz)

congratulations amigo...cmon tell more about your impressions...whats different, how does it feel etc...do you love it ? a man of a few words lol

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 10 2009 5:32:44

kozz

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From: Eindhoven NL

RE: Yet another hole (in reply to Florian)

Hahaha....sometimes it takes me a while to really enthousiastic

I just re-stringed the guitar and it really opens up...and gave me a big smile on my face.
Hopefully the strings settle down pretty quick so I can play a little and tell more about it.

Also I just used a knot in the strings at the saddle in order to improve the brake angle, don't know if that will make a difference in sound also....we'll see.

Funny though that I had a discussion this morning with my 73 year old neighbour, who also had experimented in his teens with soundports. He didn't like it because the "reverb" was gone

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 10 2009 5:49:11

Florian

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RE: Yet another hole (in reply to Florian)

quote:

"hole pandemic"!!

its a world issue

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 10 2009 6:08:41

kozz

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From: Eindhoven NL

RE: Yet another hole (in reply to Florian)

Hahaha,
I believe that part of the world seems to be a complete (financial) hole

Just cancelled my meeting with the dentist...see wanted to fill a hole in my teeth, but I politely told her it is better this way

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 10 2009 6:10:21

Florian

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RE: Yet another hole (in reply to kozz)

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Just cancelled my meeting with the dentist...see wanted to fill a hole in my teeth, but I politely told her it is better this way

HAHAHA thats brilliant ..u my friend are a comic genius !! then again thats not surprising u are from HOL anda

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btw..u have to redo your profile pic now...u know what to do

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 10 2009 6:14:02

kozz

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From: Eindhoven NL

RE: Yet another hole (in reply to kozz)

YIHAAAA....the hole is fantastic....

Anders, thanks for bringing up the whole discussion about soundports. I wouldn't even have thought about it if it wasn't for 10 page discussion with all its Flamenco-fire.
And ofcourse all the other ones who went before me, I am just a follower

What I noticed, is when I play in my living room its an improvement, but when I played in the stairway hall in our building, with a lot of tiles, it makes a hudge improvement....

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 10 2009 6:34:35

at_leo_87

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RE: Yet another hole (in reply to kozz)

wow, congratulations. it looks awesome! are you going to be reinforcing the insides? i can't believe you did it so fast. that looks like a perfect hole to me!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 10 2009 6:38:19

kozz

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From: Eindhoven NL

RE: Yet another hole (in reply to at_leo_87)

Thanks Anthony,...
it was rather easy actually....
Masking / Drilling / Shaving / Glueing....I believe all it took 20 minutes.

Did you use a circular drill?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 10 2009 6:46:16

kozz

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RE: Yet another hole (in reply to Florian)

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btw..u have to redo your profile pic now...u know what to do

DONE

quote:

HAHAHA thats brilliant ..u my friend are a comic genius !! then again thats not surprising u are from HOL anda ....

HOLE EE!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 10 2009 6:47:53

at_leo_87

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RE: Yet another hole (in reply to kozz)

yeah, it's pretty easy. just really, really scary. i just wish mine came out so beautifully.

i dont know what the drill i used is called. i'll post a picture of it later today. plus a made some reinforcements, which was easy too. i'll post pictures of that also.

wow! im so impressed. can we get a close up?

and yeah the difference in sound is small. but BIG at the same time. the more you play it, the more you realize it.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 10 2009 6:53:26

kozz

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RE: Yet another hole (in reply to at_leo_87)

Here's a closeup....and the tool I used. It has several different diameters, the smallest 25mm, than 35mm upuntill 65.
The wood in the drill is not from the guitar although, if I would have done it on my Alhambra 3F, than it could be the case

I didn't reinforce it, actually I wouldn't know how to do it...but can always be done later on I suppose.

Now I am wondering...if I drill a hole on the bottom part where the guitar rests on the leg...will I be able to feel more resonance in my body

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 10 2009 7:07:17

Anders Eliasson

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RE: Yet another hole (in reply to kozz)

I feel very sorry for having started this hole thing.

I´m afraid as well. One day you might not like your holes and start hating me.

BTW. I still love my hole. Its a good hole.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 11 2009 0:00:56

kozz

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RE: Yet another hole (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

quote:

I feel very sorry for having started this hole thing.
I´m afraid as well. One day you might not like your holes and start hating me.
BTW. I still love my hole. Its a good hole.

Hahaha,....I hate you Anders

I loved the smell of wood while drilling and now I have the urge to build a guitar myselves, and that'll probably take some time to temper that feeling, thanks Anders!

But seriously, I really enjoyed it. Especially the chance to ruin the guitar was quite present, and normally I would ruin it, but it didn't, and that made the whole hole-thing even more special.

And if we don't like it anymore, than we just by another Stagg guitar

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 11 2009 0:19:50

jshelton5040

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RE: Yet another hole (in reply to at_leo_87)

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ORIGINAL: at_leo_87

i dont know what the drill i used is called.

Surprisingly enough it's called a hole saw. It's mainly used for making the holes in doors for installing the doorknob.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 11 2009 6:28:49

at_leo_87

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RE: Yet another hole (in reply to jshelton5040)

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Surprisingly enough it's called a hole saw.

it's a weird one though. it has a pilot drill sort of thing and then a spiral looking thing for the main cutting part. i haven't been able to find a picture of it online. it cut really smooth and fast. better than those circular ones with teeth.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 11 2009 8:31:14

Estevan

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RE: Yet another hole (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

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[jshelton5040:] Surprisingly enough it's called a hole saw. It's mainly used for making the holes in doors for installing the doorknob.

quote:

[Anders:] I´m afraid as well. One day you might not like your holes and start hating me.

Don't worry Anders; if anyone doesn't like his new hole, he can put a doorknob in it.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 11 2009 8:48:16

gshaviv

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RE: Yet another hole (in reply to Estevan)

This hole thing is getting to me. I'm resisting an urge to take a drill to my guitar... Maybe if I practice a bit more on that intermediate challenge I'll get that drill, finally, together with a chainsaw... That will certainly stop the agony!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 11 2009 10:02:43

sig

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RE: Yet another hole (in reply to kozz)

Kozz,
Man that looks good. I think I may take a saw to my C3F and see if that helps it sound a bit better :)

"I read the news today oh, boy
Four thousand holes in Blackburn, Lancashire
And though the holes were rather small
They had to count them all
Now they know how many holes
it takes to fill the Albert Hall"

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 11 2009 11:57:43

jshelton5040

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RE: Yet another hole (in reply to at_leo_87)

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ORIGINAL: at_leo_87

it's a weird one though. it has a pilot drill sort of thing and then a spiral looking thing for the main cutting part. i haven't been able to find a picture of it online. it cut really smooth and fast. better than those circular ones with teeth.

Sorry I meant to respond to the post from KOZZ. The device in his photo is called a "hole saw", I don't know what tool you used but if you post a photo I can probably tell you. What you used sounds like some sort of milling burr.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 11 2009 14:10:10

kozz

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RE: Yet another hole (in reply to kozz)

I am still happy with,...thanks for the comments.

at_leo_87 do you mean a drill like this:

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 11 2009 16:02:11

at_leo_87

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RE: Yet another hole (in reply to kozz)

no that looks like a really old school device. i'll have to take a picture of it but it's in my basement and i dont want to run into any ghosts or dead bodies right now so i'll do it tomorrow.

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