Gerardo Nunez pulgar exercise

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dyst0pian

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Joined: Jun. 7 2005
From: Quebec, Canada

Gerardo Nunez pulgar exercise

After all this talk of lurking, I figured i'd try to implicate myself a little more. I am currently studying the pulgar exercise of the Nunez encuentro book on pages 22-24. As anyone else practice this? It was one of the exercises that kinda stood out musically when I first watched the video. I'm still kinda confused as to what key its in tough, sounds kinda like a weird mix of solea and granaina or something, I'm terrible with music theory, just started learning music and guitar about 2-3 years ago. I was wondering if anybody had any info or tips on this particle exercise. Btw, i've been using the same exercise to practice arpeggios to picado as well, which is a great idea if you want to kill 2 birds with one stone while practicing the fingering.

-PL

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Ricardo

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From: Washington DC

RE: Gerardo Nunez pulgar exercise (in reply to dyst0pian)

The key is A minor, it is not really a flamenco palo, although in his technique book they called it Zapateado. You could do that for 2 beat footwork in triplets, but honestly it is just supposed to be an exercise. Nunez has lots of very musical exercises that are not necessarily supposed to be based on a flamenco form, but just something pretty to hear while you work out.

Later as you develop compas, you will see that you can force just about anything into whatever rhythm so long as you know how to "book end" the falsetas to have the right feel and flavor. Anyway, thanks for posting and keep at it.

Ricardo

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 13 2007 16:43:54

n85ae

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RE: Gerardo Nunez pulgar exercise (in reply to dyst0pian)

Hi -

Thanks for posting, I've been working through the book that comes with the
video. I was jumping for joy at having reached the end of the pulgar section
recently. That is until I recorded some of it. :) Anyway, I still need to practice
a lot to get up to speed, and without too many mistakes. Be that as it may,
my pulgar has improved dramatically since learning that stuff.

I have a bunch of other material, I switch between. A big benefit of working
on the Gerardo stuff, is that when you switch to for example the Graf-Martinez
stuff, at least in my case I find it is much easier to play.

I think only working on Gerardo stuff would be a mistake, but definetly as a
technical skill builder I think it's great stuff. I have many evenings where I
work on a page or two out of that book all evening.

I wish I could find something that was more specific to a single Palo, as I
have the Graf-Martinez, and the Manuel Granados material, and while both
cover Solea for example neither cover it that extensively. I wish I could find
a entire book on Solea, or an entire book on Bulerias. The closest I've
found is Tom Whitely's Solea and Bulerias handbooks. Suggestions???

Regards,
Jeff

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 14 2007 2:24:57

henrym3483

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From: Limerick,Ireland

RE: Gerardo Nunez pulgar exercise (in reply to n85ae)

quote:

I wish I could find something that was more specific to a single Palo, as I
have the Graf-Martinez, and the Manuel Granados material, and while both
cover Solea for example neither cover it that extensively. I wish I could find
a entire book on Solea, or an entire book on Bulerias. The closest I've
found is Tom Whitely's Solea and Bulerias handbooks. Suggestions???

i definite think there is a market for like a 50 solea or 50 buleria falsetas like they have in licklibrary.com ie learn 50 licks for country jazz or rock.
i found oscar herreros two volumes on solea very indepth and workable thoug the trem exercises he has for the solo solea still have me stumped.

i think trying to tackle some of the falsetas in bronce gitano has really helped me aswell , to get a better understandign of solea as well.

errol aka Flamenco guru did a cracking rendition of bronce gitano on his website.
plus im using one of edgars vids as a study aid too.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 14 2007 3:07:06

n85ae

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RE: Gerardo Nunez pulgar exercise (in reply to dyst0pian)

Henry -

do you have or know where the tab is for that?

Thanks,
Jeff

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 14 2007 4:42:00

mark indigo

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RE: Gerardo Nunez pulgar exercise (in reply to dyst0pian)

If the pulgar study is the one I think it is, it is in A- (does it start on the open A string, with most of an A chord minus the second string? and then go down to an F chord? and end up right at the end on an A- chord?), it certainly uses the Zapateado rhythm, and you can play it as a bulerias too.

I did a class with Gerardo once, and he taught it then, but I also have the "La Tecnica al Servicio Del Arte" book, and it's in there with a few minor variations.

In the book I've got it's written in 6/8 with 6 quavers/eighth notes per bar, so if it's written the same in the book you've got, to play it over a bulerias rhythm, just count each quaver/eighth note as you would a quaver/eighth note in bulerias.

So the first bar (first 6 notes) would be counted "12 + 1 + 2 +" and you get 4 bars written down per 12 beat compas. Dunno if you'd actually want to put any of it in a buleria properly though....

mark

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Dec. 14 2007 4:58:09