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gato
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That's what makes it Art, the Artist has to decide what he is going to do and what are to be his influences, and where he gets it from, not unlike any other artform. You can't make art/music without taking chances, and that is all up to you; Wether you go with the 'classics' or wether you abandon them all together, but you must familiarize your self with alot of things in order to do that, and that, is an ongoing process that will never end as long as you are serious about what it is that you are doing. This involves the flamenco on all levels. And, it will always involve old things, new things, old territories, and new territories. You must work on it. And if you do, you will know.
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Date Jul. 4 2007 6:26:51
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Ricardo
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Todd's point was well taken, but if Habichuela(still alive) and Canizares were to play a concert together I dare say many people (new or not) could tell the difference. Well in a concert folks can SEE the players. But if they HEARD a concert on tape, and did not know any better, they might NOT be able to distinguish. You say "many" so what does that mean exactly??? I don't think Todd is saying "it is all the same, old or new". His point is that YOU the player can play new or old in the context of the same piece, the music CAN blend together. "Old style" is not only the techniques, but the sound of the record dust poping and stuff. It is the whole package. YOu play something by sabicas, but shift it off the beat and use cajon and bass, it is modern jazz menco. Your question is in regards to "traditional material" which is the specific falsetas, not the interpretation. Just like in Classical music, you can "interpret" the classics how you will. Traditional flamenco can also be called "classical flamenco" for the same reason. So if you were going to compose for an orchestra would it be helpful to know about what Bach or Mozart did with orchestras? Sure. Same for flamenco, you would do yourself good by understanding what the maestros of old were doing. Ricardo
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Date Jul. 4 2007 7:34:24
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but i do enjoy listning to the music of all the artists mentioned here.
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Date Jul. 5 2007 9:29:11
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Florian
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Domenic Romerito.. Interesting discussion, I dont really have a formulated locked down opinion and my tastes and ideas are allways changing anyway. Personally I think you should start with traditional not because its essential to your artist but because its, more straight foward, the timing , the modes etc. it creates for a good foundation for technique, sence of compas etc.. And I gues beeing educated in traditional and modern will not hurt you one bit. It makes the difference between "informed" modern playing and uninformed improvisation. But ...when i think traditional, i dont necesarely think Sabicas or Nino Ricardo. not because i dont like them but because i cant sitt trough the bad quality recordings expecially since i got about 400 beautifully recorded albums to listen to and digest. (also mibe I am rebeling a litlle, just because everybody tells me that i should be listening to them it agravates me that i am missing out on what everybody else seems to be getting or atlist pretending to be getting )... there are many great guitarists who play great traditional stuff today or a nice balance of traditional eg. Moraito, Pepe y Juan Habichuela, Melchor etc, i listen to them for my traditional dose of education, and they listened and were influenced by Sabicas and Ricardo soo the way i see it I am not really missing out I just get it in a better quality recording and besides.. Nino and Sabicas are not necesarely anymore traditional or flamenco than Moraito and Habichuela... just older. when we listen to flamenco guitar,a bulerias for example we like to hear modern original stuff but we also like to hear the traditional strong base undercoats, so i think even if you dont necesarely play Sabicas or Ricardo's music, u can still find your element of traditional and combine it with whatever it is that you wanna do. I got another one of my wise sayings for this one ... " you can only get to step 2 comfortably by stepping on step 1 first, if you jump straight to 2 you might get there but it will slow you down for step 3 as you need to stop and regain your balance " .... theres alot of truth in that ....
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