My New Cordoba F7

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flamencoLVR

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My New Cordoba F7

I bought the Cordoba F7 at Sam Ash in Westminster CA store. Salesman Jerry demoed the F7 and Yamaha CG 172. I chose the F7 and took it home to let strings settle. I took it out
of the nice gig bag and found that a bass string had broken. I had paid the $40 extended service fee and took the F7 in to Sam Ash store for nut and saddle height adjustment as
well as a new set of La Bella 820 red nylon strings.

The string height was about 6 mm at 12th fret. Anxious to see how it plays with adjustments and my favorite La Bella strings. Meanwhile I'm rusty and practicing with my old Martin
0018G, which sounds pretty nice with new Labella 820's . Jerry the salesman said that the Martin is probably worth from $700 to $1000 with current market. May take it to McCabes
and have them check whether straightening with weights, etc. is worth it.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 14 2015 16:02:21

Ricardo

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RE: My New Cordoba F7 (in reply to flamencoLVR)

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The string height was about 6 mm at 12th fret. Anxious to see how it plays with adjustments and favorite La Bella strings.

6 mm? That's not a guitar, that's like a bow and arrow set up.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 14 2015 16:09:55

flamencoLVR

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RE: My New Cordoba F7 (in reply to flamencoLVR)

Your probably right, the Yamaha also needed string height adjustment. I have read that this is common on a lot of entry level guitars. BTW, the F7 is a nice looking guitar, hope it
will be adequate for my humble use. It probably wouldn't work well in an archery application with Savarez strings.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 14 2015 16:15:05

Morante

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RE: My New Cordoba F7 (in reply to flamencoLVR)

If it really is 6 mm at 12th fret,you should return it. There is no way you can reduce 6 to 3.

I am sure that a real bow would be cheaper

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 14 2015 17:25:08

ngiorgio

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From: Florida, USA

RE: My New Cordoba F7 (in reply to Morante)

The F-7 has an adjustable truss rod. If it is, in fact 6mm at the 12th fret, there is a possibility of a forward bow in the neck. If so, straightening the neck along with a lowering of the saddle could possibly make it playable.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 14 2015 17:50:36

flamencoLVR

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RE: My New Cordoba F7 (in reply to flamencoLVR)

String height at 12th fret may be a little less than 6mm, if I can't get 3mm with good playability will return it.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 17 2015 17:40:46

keith

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RE: My New Cordoba F7 (in reply to flamencoLVR)

even at 5mm that is way too high and you might want to take the guitar in before trying to reduce the height as lowering the saddle might be a reason for mr. ash to fight you over a refund. as nick said, it might be the adjustable neck. a new guitar should not require major surgery to make it playable. something is clearly not right.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 17 2015 21:56:09

rojarosguitar

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RE: My New Cordoba F7 (in reply to flamencoLVR)

6mm is more than even the toughest classical guitar would ever have...

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 24 2015 10:01:59

estebanana

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RE: My New Cordoba F7 (in reply to flamencoLVR)

Friend, 'Truss rods are not for setting neck angle, they are for adjusting and fine tuning neck relief.

If you have 6mm at the 12th fret you really should heed the advice of the previous posters and return the guitar. Eventually you will come to understand why 6mm is WAY- WAY-WAY too high for 12th fret action. If you wait too long to return it you may not be able to return it.

If you live in the LA area call Guitar Salon International and ask them how a Cordoba should be adjusted when you buy it. They distribute the Cordoba line and they can give you guidance on how it should be set up then you buy it.

Good luck and do check into this---

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 24 2015 14:39:23

flamencoLVR

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RE: My New Cordoba F7 (in reply to estebanana)

All is well with my Cordoba F7 flamenco guitar. Travis at Sam Ash, Westminster CA was thrilled by the playability and sound after he lowered the action and installed a set of La Bella
#820 strings. It plays and sounds as a good flamenco guitar should and would probably impress a competent flamenco guitarist. I intend to learn proper right and left hand technique
after decades of messing around with flamenco and folk music. This forum is a good source of information and would have helped me a lot years ago. I have been an active scale RC
model plane builder and flier for many years and contributor on RC Groups forums, going by the handle "E-Challenged". It is also a great source of information and you are welcome to look in there
if you have any interest in the many types of RC model planes.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 25 2015 3:35:18

estebanana

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RE: My New Cordoba F7 (in reply to flamencoLVR)

Give Travis my best and tell him to keep on picking!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 25 2015 3:48:47

Anders Eliasson

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RE: My New Cordoba F7 (in reply to flamencoLVR)

I like model planes and all other kinds of Aircraft, even virtual ones.

Enjoy your guitar.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 25 2015 7:42:38

LeTeutonOnGuitar

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From: Treviso (Home) /Zittau (working place)

RE: My New Cordoba F7 (in reply to flamencoLVR)

Hola,

I bought this guitar in 2013 and although my Francisco Bros Solea Especial 2020 is a much better guitar, sometimes I still do some recording with my Mundo Flamenco 3F/Cordoba F7 as it is a very resistent guitar. Please find below some details:
Concerning this flamenco guitar, it's a cheap China model with a solid spruce top. The sound is not equilibrate at all as the basses are very strong and the trebles a bit weak, but it's a very resistant guitar that can be used at parties, outdoors, around a campfire and even for 1-2 hours in 35% humidity environment, if you put it back in its light case afterwards.
The Mundo Flamenco 3F is not available at Mundo Flamenco anymore, but you can find it at Thomann as Cordoba F7 model. It's exactly the same guitar as you will see in the following links:
https://www.mundo-flamenco.com/nc/en/...
https://www.thomann.de/de/cordoba_f7_...

Here are some videos, too:

Cheers

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 14 2022 15:12:39

constructordeguitarras

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RE: My New Cordoba F7 (in reply to flamencoLVR)

Why are factory-made guitars discussed so much on the Lutherie forum? Do luthiers really care about them?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 15 2022 20:18:11

Ricardo

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RE: My New Cordoba F7 (in reply to constructordeguitarras)

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ORIGINAL: constructordeguitarras

Why are factory-made guitars discussed so much on the Lutherie forum? Do luthiers really care about them?

People enjoy hearing from experienced Luthiers EXACTLY how junky they are! One of my favorites was about the hot glue gun used on the Hermanos Sanchis Lopez story. That was great!

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=190437&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=hot%2Cglue&tmode=&smode=&s=#190437

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 16 2022 15:42:55

constructordeguitarras

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RE: My New Cordoba F7 (in reply to Ricardo)

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People enjoy hearing from experienced Luthiers EXACTLY how junky they are!

It always amazes me when people come to look at my guitars and expect me to know about some (or every) company's Model 1-FQ-XYZ-LMNOP. I tell them that I am not familiar with those; I make hand-made guitars.

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