Learning a bit of V. Amigo's solea "Cordoba"

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jg7238

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Learning a bit of V. Amigo's solea &...

Just was looking at part of Vicente's solea and felt like posting. It still needs some tightening and refinement....

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Sr. Martins

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RE: Learning a bit of V. Amigo's sol... (in reply to jg7238)

Very nice. Only needs a bit more "seagulls"

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 10 2014 2:20:38

eitanfar

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RE: Learning a bit of V. Amigo's sol... (in reply to jg7238)

Very well played ! Good control of the instrument.
One small thing though. For my taste, it sounds a bit more classical than flamenco. I think that the piece itself is less traditional flamenco in nature, but then again, the sound can make a lot of difference.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 10 2014 5:57:50

rogeliocan

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RE: Learning a bit of V. Amigo's sol... (in reply to jg7238)

Very nice!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 10 2014 14:17:07

ToddK

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RE: Learning a bit of V. Amigo's sol... (in reply to jg7238)

You have the notes right.

Now you just need the phrasing and dynamics.

It needs alot more drama! :)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 10 2014 15:49:12

tri7/5

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RE: Learning a bit of V. Amigo's sol... (in reply to jg7238)

Such a deceptively tough solea to play.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 10 2014 16:14:35

jg7238

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RE: Learning a bit of V. Amigo's sol... (in reply to Sr. Martins)

Thanks everyone for the comments... Todd, I suppose you are right to some extent It's in the early stages so I know what you mean... I'll try to upload more of it soon. Thanks again for the input.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 10 2014 16:45:22

Sr. Martins

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RE: Learning a bit of V. Amigo's sol... (in reply to ToddK)

quote:

Now you just need the phrasing and dynamics.

It needs alot more drama! :)

Needs more of this!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 10 2014 16:51:56

ToddK

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RE: Learning a bit of V. Amigo's sol... (in reply to Sr. Martins)

quote:

Needs more of this!

Its like you can see inside my mind!!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 11 2014 15:30:52

jg7238

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RE: Learning a bit of V. Amigo's sol... (in reply to jg7238)

Ok, my continuation of this tricky solea....

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 12 2014 20:36:29

eitanfar

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RE: Learning a bit of V. Amigo's sol... (in reply to jg7238)

Very nice

I don't know if it's on purpose, but I think that it sounds a lot "more flamenco" than in the previous video, probably since it's not as "clean" sounding.
Good rasgeo sounds too.
I can't wait to hear the complete solea once you've mastered it, don't forget to post

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 13 2014 6:15:59

beno

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RE: Learning a bit of V. Amigo's sol... (in reply to jg7238)

Nice playing as usual!
That TV going endlessly in the background's gonna do bad things to your mind!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 13 2014 6:56:56

Ricardo

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RE: Learning a bit of V. Amigo's sol... (in reply to jg7238)

Didn't like this piece when I first heard it years ago, but it grew on me. Nice playing!

Ricardo

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 13 2014 13:01:20

jg7238

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RE: Learning a bit of V. Amigo's sol... (in reply to eitanfar)

Thanks eitanfar for the comment. It's not quite in the hands yet but when it is I'll do the full upload . The way Vicente makes those rasgueados sound is not easy at all. I'm getting better with it but not quite there yet. @Beno: Thanks for chiming in. I apologize for the TV man. I'll have it on mute next time.

Ricardo: Thanks for your comment man. I can see what you are saying about not liking the piece at first. It had a similar effect on me.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 14 2014 0:48:38

machopicasso

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RE: Learning a bit of V. Amigo's sol... (in reply to jg7238)

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Ok, my continuation of this tricky solea....

Personally, I find this clip a little more compelling than the first. I'm sympathetic to Todd's comment about phrasing and dynamics, and suspect your playing of the piece would benefit from slowing down a little bit.

I learned this piece a while back, and you've inspired me to revisit it. Thanks!

This is a beautiful piece. For me, the biggest challenge is playing it with the kind of expressiveness and dynamics with which Vicente plays it; and yet playing it in compas as a solea. Vicente has such mastery of the compas. As someone who's (obviously) not at his level, playing this piece makes me feel like I have to choose between the aforementioned options.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 15 2014 9:20:11

jg7238

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RE: Learning a bit of V. Amigo's sol... (in reply to machopicasso)

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the biggest challenge is playing it with the kind of expressiveness and dynamics with which Vicente plays it;

Yes, you hit it right on the nail! It's not easy at all but I'm improving in this area even if Todd doesn't think so..

The only thing now for me is to be more consistent with the phrasing and dynamics.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 15 2014 18:27:41

ToddK

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RE: Learning a bit of V. Amigo's sol... (in reply to jg7238)

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I'm improving in this area even if Todd doesn't think so..

I DO think so. I'm just pushing you, the same way i push myself or anybody
else when i know you can do better.

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guitarbuddha

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RE: Learning a bit of V. Amigo's sol... (in reply to jg7238)

noreallythoughwhichdoyouprefer.

No, really though, which do you prefer ?

It's not just words, and it's not just notes.

The second was easier to type, and required virtually no learning, just a little patience, and a little less work from the reader.

And thus a little less resentment and more scope for appreciation.

Stop avoiding the easy work, hard work is overrated.

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 16 2014 1:03:51