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Flamenco chords, again….
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Robug
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Flamenco chords, again….
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Greetings, A couple of years ago, Ricardo started a posting with his TAB flamenco chords. I put the "A" flamenco chords into a file that shows TAB, notation, and chord fretboard fingering (the attached file). I had to reduce the size greatly because this foro has very limited options for files so the quality is much reduced (we can examine some other means of sharing this file, that is if people are interested). I have not completed it or proofed for mistakes yet, but you can get a general idea. If you guys here think this is of interest, I will complete the "A" chords and then proceed to include all the others Ricardo (and others) so kindly posted. This was done in Finale 2012 and the original file can actually be "played" using a free reading version from the Finale MakeMusic web page. Personally, I find notation to be of great value when used in conjunction with the TAB and chord symbols. Please let me know if you like this, or not, and make suggestions. I send you greetings from tropical Panama.
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Date May 25 2014 7:45:49
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Robug
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RE: Flamenco chords, again…. (in reply to koenie17)
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Dear Koenie17, Thank you very much for your kind words. I will do this work for certain. It is not difficult work for Finale program except for the fretboard diagrams (TAB and notation are rather simple). However, Finale demands a Chord name for the fretboard diagrams and, with the very unusual chord shapes, I have to "teach" Finale to know the chords and unusual names. But, the more I do, the easier it becomes. The next issue will be how to post a high quality pdf file, but I am confident we can resolve that issue (perhaps by email or some other web site). This can be a "provisional work" in that we can add to it at any time as new ideas develop. I would really appreciate any ideas from you and others to make this the best we can. Also, there are places to cite the author/source of each contribution. And, Finale TAB can accommodate ANY tuning, indeed, any fretted instrument (7 string guitars, sitar, etc. etc.). This work should go rather smoothly and, as soon as things are properly designed, we should have weekly updates until everything is complete. Greetings from my tropical Panamanian paradise…..
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Date May 25 2014 22:10:17
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Robug
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RE: Flamenco chords, again…. (in reply to Leñador)
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Okay, let's do this. I will do the "A's" this week, the "D's" next week, etc. etc. As we progress, I will make changes to improve the project. For the moment, I can create a small image like the attachment I originally posted here, however, it is important that I find a good, convenient way to post a high quality pdf, one that can be accessed at any time by those who are interested. Leñador, please post here the two "A's" that you mentioned and I will add them. This project should be very useful and really rather fun.
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Date May 26 2014 13:11:22
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Ricardo
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RE: Flamenco chords, again…. (in reply to Rmn)
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Rmn quote:
quote: ORIGINAL: Rmn quote: you can make some suggestions generally speaking, but, you can use any chord from the chromatic scale in any palo....if you know how to do it. And even if you dont' your ear can find cool things by experimenting. That's sort of why I tried to put chords up in chromatic order ABbBCC# etc to G#. _____________________________ Hi Ricardo, this is some interesting bit of information, could you perhaps explain a little bit more about it and maybe name a practical use of it? Thanks so much would love to but the parameters are too broad. Give me a chord or two and the palo and I will show how to work it in. For example playing (composing, improvising) in solea I pretty much play most of the time in E F G Am Dm C, in some falsetas doing a melody in F# chord then modulating back to E phrygian might happen, but that's basically it that I know about. Im sure I play falsetas from others which have chromatic harmony in them, but Im not musically wel educated to know that. Would be nice to know the general concept of like you say using any chord in the chromatic scale in any palo (and still sounding flamenco) And an example of it. It's my dream to understand more of these kind of things in order to be able to express and compose better and to broaden the mind musically There is no general concept other than compas and cadence. There can only be specifics. So here is an example. Solea. I do the same as you suggest stick with those basic harmonies relative to E por arriba for most of it. At 4 minutes, I resolve to C major chord. Then from same bass note go into a C minor chord and phrase. That moves to F minor. Then I move to Abmaj7...BUT I voice my melodic phrases in such a way you can think the Ab is really a G#....perfectly normal note in the solea. It resolves to G7, but in a phrygian way. But it is still having close relation to normal solea stuff on the G chord. The open strings might make us think nothing is majorly weird...though it is. Then I bring back in F but with the traditional F major (lydian) bass line that resolves with a nice Eb leading tone back to our tonic E phyrgian. (Eb/D# can be easing us out of C minor type stuff back to E phrygian....jazz guys know this relationship as F lydian dominant, mode 4 of C melodic minor). http://youtu.be/mfmks81pWNQ
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Date May 29 2014 13:52:46
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