Foro Flamenco


Posts Since Last Visit | Advanced Search | Home | Register | Login

Today's Posts | Inbox | Profile | Our Rules | Contact Admin | Log Out



Welcome to one of the most active flamenco sites on the Internet. Guests can read most posts but if you want to participate click here to register.

This site is dedicated to the memory of Paco de Lucía, Ron Mitchell, Guy Williams, Linda Elvira, Philip John Lee, Craig Eros, Ben Woods, David Serva and Tom Blackshear who went ahead of us.

We receive 12,200 visitors a month from 200 countries and 1.7 million page impressions a year. To advertise on this site please contact us.





Does this classical guitar have a flamenco character?   You are logged in as Guest
Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
All Forums >>Discussions >>General >> Page: [1]
Login
Message<< Newer Topic  Older Topic >>
 
gabasa

 

Posts: 6
Joined: May 30 2011
 

Does this classical guitar have a fl... 
One well known luthier told me that he loves how this guitar has a flamenco-ish character to it because of the Spanish cedar back and sides. Just out of curiosity, what do you think? Can you hear it? Bear in mind, this is a classical instrument!

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 18 2013 19:18:02
 
Arash

Posts: 4495
Joined: Aug. 9 2006
From: Iran (living in Germany)

RE: Does this classical guitar have ... (in reply to gabasa) 
its cypress back and sides, cedar is the neck.
standard material used in flamenco guitars.
Jeff Sigurdson also makes "pure" flamenco guitars.

_____________________________
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 18 2013 19:32:38
 
gabasa

 

Posts: 6
Joined: May 30 2011
 

RE: Does this classical guitar have ... (in reply to Arash) 
Whoops, my bad......

Yes, Spanish cypress back and sides, Spanish cedar neck, and German spruce top.

Thanks.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 18 2013 19:58:59
 
aeolus

Posts: 765
Joined: Oct. 30 2009
From: Mier

RE: Does this classical guitar have ... (in reply to gabasa) 
Eliot Fisk is playing a Connor that might be cypress if not maple. Supposedly Brazilian would give a "darker" sound. and from what I see on Youtube the top line flamencos are using negras some even with cedar tops. So Fisk seems to be odd man out and the rosewood body seems to be trending in favor with flamencos. As to the recording it sounds a little brighter than usual but certainly not like a traditional light weight flamenco.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 18 2013 21:22:10
 
Anders Eliasson

Posts: 5780
Joined: Oct. 18 2006
 

RE: Does this classical guitar have ... (in reply to gabasa) 
quote:

Does this classical guitar have a flamenco character?  


Impossible to judge because the video is with spanish classical music played on a classical guitars by a classical guitarist using a classical tecnique.

That said, cypress is a wonderfull tonewood. I have not made a classical (yet) but I´ve made a couple of hybryd (flamenco - classical crossovers) with cypress for the back and sides and I really liked them

_____________________________

Blog: http://news-from-the-workshop.blogspot.com/
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 19 2013 6:57:32
 
rletson

 

Posts: 8
Joined: May 25 2013
 

RE: Does this classical guitar have ... (in reply to gabasa) 
It's a nice-sounding instrument, but (within the limits of internet/YouTube audio), I wouldn't say it sounds any different from any number of classical guitars I've heard. Of course, as Anders points out, we're hearing classical technique, and that is certainly determining what we hear in the video. One would like to hear the guitar in the hands of a flamenco player, doing some flamenco repertory.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 19 2013 20:48:30
 
aeolus

Posts: 765
Joined: Oct. 30 2009
From: Mier

RE: Does this classical guitar have ... (in reply to gabasa) 
Here is Fisk with what is probably cypress body as Connor offers a cypress flamenco and is enthusiastic about it as a wood. It sounds like any other top quality classical and given the the characteristics of the piece no comparison is possible.

  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 19 2013 21:06:02
 
gabasa

 

Posts: 6
Joined: May 30 2011
 

RE: Does this classical guitar have ... (in reply to aeolus) 
Isn't that flame maple?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 20 2013 3:09:24
 
Leñador

Posts: 5237
Joined: Jun. 8 2012
From: Los Angeles

RE: Does this classical guitar have ... (in reply to gabasa) 
Whoa dude, Andy Dick can get down!

_____________________________

\m/
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 20 2013 3:30:03
 
Anders Eliasson

Posts: 5780
Joined: Oct. 18 2006
 

RE: Does this classical guitar have ... (in reply to rletson) 
quote:

One would like to hear the guitar in the hands of a flamenco player, doing some flamenco repertory.


I´m 99% sure it will sound very classical. IMHO, the diference between a classical guitar and a flamenco guitar lies mainly in what has been done to the soundboard, to some degree in the bridge mass and to a smaller degree in the wood chosen for the back and sides.

_____________________________

Blog: http://news-from-the-workshop.blogspot.com/
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 20 2013 7:15:21
 
aeolus

Posts: 765
Joined: Oct. 30 2009
From: Mier

RE: Does this classical guitar have ... (in reply to gabasa) 
quote:

Isn't that flame maple?


Back & Sides

Rosewood
Cypress
Koa
European Maple

From Connor's website listing the woods he uses so it could just as easily be European Mable.. It's rare from my experience and watching videos on YouTubere to see a top classical player with something other than rosewood I would guess that Maple is denser than cypress and hence better suited to classical.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 20 2013 14:58:14
Page:   [1]
All Forums >>Discussions >>General >> Page: [1]
Jump to:

New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts


Forum Software powered by ASP Playground Advanced Edition 2.0.5
Copyright © 2000 - 2003 ASPPlayground.NET

0.09375 secs.