Non-Altering Pickup/Mic system ~$300 (multiple selections allowed)

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Non-Altering Pickup/Mic system ~$300 (multiple selections allowed)

Audio Technica AT831b

33% (2)

Bartlett Audio Guitar Mic

50% (3)

K&K Meridian Microphone

16% (1)

Acousticon GHS-A141

0% (0)

Total Votes : 6

(last vote on : Sep. 5 2013 17:26:58)

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thedurphy

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Non-Altering Pickup/Mic system ~$300...

Hey everyone. This is a continuation of a previous post I made on the 'Audio Recording Advice' column which can be found here. Just bought a francisco navarro concert flamenco. It is actually still being made:) I was going to have a pickup system installed but then opted against it on the count that I do not want to alter the guitar in anyway. IMHO, electronics can get outdated; guitars just build character.

Anyway, I was wondering about ways I can output it through an acoustic amp. These are the stipulations...

1. I have to be able to stand and play, and move around while playing (i know what you are thinking, but just bare with me)
2. This would eliminate normal instrument mic options since they are stationary
3. Do not want to alter the guitar in any way; no if's, and's, or but's
4. ~$300

Just wanted to clarify any confusion
I basically want the mobility of a regular acoustic-electric (ones you buy at factory guitar retailers) without altering the guitar in anyway. I think my stipulations may have confused some people. Thank you for all the suggestions.

These are the Choices

1. Audio Technica AT831b

2. Bartlett Audio Guitar Mic (phantom powered)

3. K&K Meridian Microphone

RECENTLY ADDED

(Since the poll options may grow depending on the suggestions made, I am opening up the polls to allow multiple choices. This following area is for options that have been added since the original post)

4. Acousticon GHS-A141 Thank you Alval for the suggestion!

If there are any mics that fit the requirements and you would like me to add to the poll, just respond to this message.

Thank you for voting, and thank you to all who suggested on the previous post!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 31 2013 7:14:43

mark indigo

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RE: Non-Altering Pickup/Mic system ~$300 (in reply to thedurphy)

btw the Audio Technica I use is AT831b not 931

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 31 2013 14:14:03

thedurphy

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RE: Non-Altering Pickup/Mic system ~$300 (in reply to mark indigo)

It was the AT831b and I have made the corrections. There is no 931..ooops:)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 31 2013 19:18:36

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 31 2013 20:45:50

Miguel de Maria

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RE: Non-Altering Pickup/Mic system ~... (in reply to thedurphy)

These conditions you've stipulated just don't add up. Guitars are tools (especially student-grade guitars). Get a pickup with a plug in the endblock. If you want to do the Peret thing, get a wireless pack you can stick on your belt.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 1 2013 4:24:51

thedurphy

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RE: Non-Altering Pickup/Mic system ~... (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

I appreciate your response, Miguel. Unfortunately, it offers no valuable contribution to the post/poll.

I asked for members to vote on which non-altering pickup/mic system (~$300) they would recommend out of previously selected items and/or suggest possible choices that meet the criteria that I may have overlooked.

Your response was simply for me to get a pickup system...

quote:

ORIGINAL: Miguel de Maria

Get a pickup with a plug in the endblock.

Since I have already come to the conclusion that I need a pickup system, hence the reason for this post, I would appreciate a much more precise response to which pickup system you would recommend.

Thank you for your time.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 1 2013 10:10:00

Guest

RE: Non-Altering Pickup/Mic system ~... (in reply to thedurphy)

quote:

1. I have to be able to stand and play, and move around while playing (i know what you are thinking, but just bare with me)

i think this is what Miguel was commenting on
all of the systems above really wont be able for you to that without picking up your pickup/mic of the floor...potentially
all the systems above pretty much require that you sit down...{i've owned two of the above the audio technica and the bartlett}
the bartlett is the only one that can be hardwired for wireless as far as i know

the dpa 4099 can be used as a wireless system [excellent mic with transparent sound ]
either way i dont think its going to work with $300
but your choice in the end...i could be wrong...
but have seen these types off mics go flying off the guitar with just getting up from a chair, or a slight swing of a a guitar...and the cable can easily be pulled by a number of things in a performance situation you describe...which is how my Bartlett died...fell off then trodden on by a dancer...the audio technica is more problematic

all this of course has nothing to do with how each mic sounds...

Miguels suggestion is a good one...a working guitar with a pick up that can use a transmitter...

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 1 2013 11:28:48

thedurphy

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RE: Non-Altering Pickup/Mic system ~... (in reply to Guest)

I see where the confusion came in. I wanted the ability to move. More importantly not to be stuck in a chair. Much like how one would connect an acoustic-electric guitar to an amp and still be able to stand up with it. I believe all these systems would allow me to stand up/walk without the need of a wireless transceiver, correct? I would probably have to have a separate clip on my belt for the cable just so all the pressure from the cable does not fall on the mic.

Let me simplify. I want the ability of an acoustic electric, without altering the guitar.

Thank you, and apologies for the confusion.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 1 2013 15:54:32

Guest

RE: Non-Altering Pickup/Mic system ~... (in reply to thedurphy)

quote:

I believe all these systems would allow me to stand up/walk without the need of a wireless transceiver, correct? I would probably have to have a separate clip on my belt for the cable just so all the pressure from the cable does not fall on the mic.

Potentially yes
One pull/step on the cable by either yours or another's foot is all it takes to pull the belt clip off
Just an observation
The other missing one here is the mini flex flamenco guitar mic
I've used there internal systems and they seem to work well
The flamenco model seems to cover the back of the guitar

http://www.acousticon.com/MiniFlex2Mic.htm

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 1 2013 16:28:09

Miguel de Maria

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RE: Non-Altering Pickup/Mic system ~... (in reply to thedurphy)

6 posts and he's telling me my input is not valuable!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 1 2013 18:36:55

thedurphy

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RE: Non-Altering Pickup/Mic system ~... (in reply to Miguel de Maria)

No offense intended. Just being honest. You have not voted nor have you offered any suggestions on amplifying the guitar without altering it. Since those were the requests made on this post, your response, to me, was not helpful. Again, no offense intended.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 1 2013 20:28:54