Toying about rosettes

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Ruphus

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Joined: Nov. 18 2010

Toying about rosettes

I am thinking of first time ordering a custom made guitar.

After listing the specs, thoughts came about visual appearance. When having a guitar tailored to personal demand, yeah, why not take a chance on cosmectics too.
I never spend much attention on rosettes other than feeling lucky when examples were somewhat to my liking.

The luthier I want to order from makes some beautiful looking rosettes. And while I was about to settle on an Aztek like motif, it came to me that there is the option of individually made designs too.

Either here or on another guitar forum in a thread about rosettes I once noted that I would like to see some stuff in the ways of Northern American Natives. ( Used to make my own Indian equipment as a kid and like their stylization ever since.)
So, intending to give the luthier an idea of what could be liked I opened Windows paint and gave it a go.

Mousing in the rather clumsy graphics application ain´t too entertaining, so I only filled up a part of the sketch and send it out like below.

Then, a coupe hours after having sent it, laziness was overpowerd by a creative flash and I, curious to see that thing completed, finished it and made a couple variations too.

It´s been fun, and I could think of a bunch of thelike designs.

In case of you wondering about possible materials of all but one of the drawings: I am no purist and would accept any material. ( Rather wanting it to be an easy job for the luthier.) However, for who would like to see both, colorful inlays with yet all natural materials like stones etc., have a look at Grit Laskin´s inlays. It is amazing what brilliant colors can be found in nature.

And yes, the examples are too broad in diameter ( should be reduced in width if done, but without compressing the eagles, only scaling them down and possibly even spraining them vertically ), and the inner rim of the tops wood is missing as it would had taken too much work in the software to provide it.

Just wanted to get an impression of how things could be looking like on a guitar, and like the result a lot.
Hope some of you may too.

Ruphus

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 3 2013 2:31:41

bursche

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Joined: Jul. 19 2007
From: Frankfurt, Germany

RE: Toying about rosettes (in reply to Ruphus)

Absolutely not my taste. I prefer simpler designs that blur a bit with the soundboard colour. But it's going to be your guitar so don't care about other people's tastes.

It's a very good idea to make sketches of the result you want to have. You should definitely make some suggestions about the design and overall appearance - that's why you have something built for you. If you wouldn't care about the design why should you order from a luthier instead of testing second hand guitars?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 3 2013 11:34:39

tele

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RE: Toying about rosettes (in reply to bursche)

It's good to go "custom" on the rosettes but in my opinion it's rather important to keep things flamenco if it's a flamenco guitar. Eagle is certainly not.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 3 2013 11:56:30

keith

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Joined: Sep. 29 2009
From: Back in Boston

RE: Toying about rosettes (in reply to Ruphus)

ruphus--if you are going to keep the eagle motif you might want to eliminate one bird and space them accordingly. why? the fretboard will overlay one of your birds and you may have only the end of the wings showing. given how often people flip guitars the motif may affect the price if you want to flip the guitar.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 3 2013 12:38:41

Ruphus

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Joined: Nov. 18 2010

RE: Toying about rosettes (in reply to Ruphus)

Bursche,

Thanks for the input.
At first I really wasn´t thinking too much of personal design except of the specs.
But now I am having real fun with creating some rosette ( gotta wait and see though, what the luthiers says about the work).

I can be picky about certain stylish details, but here I am not.
This will not be a guitar that tries to stay in any Spanish tradition other than sound. It will be my personal guitar albeit build for flamenco playing demands in the first place.

I want to see what you usually do not see with rather traditional designs, of which most don´t suit me tastewise with mostly tiny mosaik. Like you I appreciate ton sur ton designs, especially when they came out first, but in the meantime they are just one more of `traditional´joice. Yet, I still like it, which is why one of the above varieties is meant to show mere woods. I want some bling for my eye in the first place, whatever that be in the end.

Already before I saw Tele´s reminder of at least Spain related motifs, I started fiddling a bull head this afternoon. A Spanish longhorn if you will.

Here its first variety:

Hi Keith,

Yep, that came to me today when I glanced over the drawings. Where would the fretboard going to be, hehe. I have now inserted one and adapted the rosettes accordingly.

It really makes a lot of fun, despite the not so optimal software solution that I am using which forces you to invent weird techniques.

Ruphus

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