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Juan Carlos Romero - New CD
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ToddK
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 RE: Juan Carlos Romero - New CD (in reply to Florian)
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unclean playing was fixed
You cant fix unclean playing. If its not played clean, its not going to sound
clean.
You can punch in, or edit things, but you cant make a note, notes, or chords
that were played in a fuzzy unclear way, clean. Its impossible.
You cant get rid of string noises, squeaks, buzzez, etc. You can only
re-record it and edit it in, but it still has to be played cleanly.
You, and clearly many people have the complete wrong idea about what
can realistically be done in the studio. Its not Disneyland. It might be that
way for vocal tuning, but for acoustic instruments, things havent changed that
much.
Anybody that has done a real deal album knows this. Ask Ricardo.
TK
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Date Jun. 13 2012 18:02:55
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Florian
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From: Adelaide/Australia
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RE: Juan Carlos Romero - New CD (in reply to ToddK)
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You, and clearly many people have the complete wrong idea about what
can realistically be done in the studio.
well i am fuc*ed then 
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You can punch in, or edit things, but you cant make a note, notes, or chords
that were played in a fuzzy unclear way, clean. Its impossible.
You cant get rid of string noises, squeaks, buzzez, etc. You can only
re-record it and edit it in, but it still has to be played cleanly.
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cool...so hypothetically if i do 1000....10000000000 takes and punch all the cleanest bits in...am i still a clean player ? even the worst player in the world can record 5 minutes of clean playing punching in the cleanest bits out of 1000 takes....
do you have to play it clean the first time or the 1000th time to be considered a clean player ? and then how can you tell if the recording is from his 1st time, 2nd, 3rd or 50th time ?
do you believe you can tell every time someone punches something in ?
we can put it to a test...i can do a track with a few punch ins...write down the exact location...give it to someone to keep and you have to guess the exact locations of where i punched in..
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Anybody that has done a real deal album knows this. Ask Ricardo.
ok...Ricardo...can an unclean player fake 5 minutes of clean playing after punching in the cleanest parts out of 100000 takes ? and could you tell how many takes he did before the track you are listening too ?
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Date Jun. 13 2012 18:04:50
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Florian
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From: Adelaide/Australia
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RE: Juan Carlos Romero - New CD (in reply to Ron.M)
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, but at the end of the day JM has access to all this modern studio technology too, and he still sounds like...well...JM !
true...but that's not the quality of his sound...its the content, the material...i have heard some of his albums or lessons dvd..and the sound itself was great...kind of older school sound...guessing that's also cause of his preference and his idea of how a flamenco guitar should sound on recording
i dont think sound can transform a player and shift you 100% and make unrealistic changes to your skill...but i think good sound can make you sound better and bad sound can make you sound less better
i think that if you took a photo with simons camera of the same object...it would probably make you seem like perhaps a better photographer than you really are ?.perhaps not like Simon, but in any case better than you are ..because it is a great camera...and if you took a photo of the same object with a $5 disposable camera it would make you seem average or even less skilled.
if Simon himself took a photo of the same item...with the 2 different cameras, and you didn't know it was the same guy...it would look like perhaps two differently skilled photographers ?
its not an accusation or an excuse or a way to discredit anyone's skill...its just a simple fact of life...better cameras photograph better, better video cameras get better quality videos, better guitars sound better, better recording equipment records better, and better vacuum cleaners have more suction...now theres always exceptions to those rules...but this are the exceptions, not the rule...
its like saying Senna could have won the grand prix in a volvo cause he had skill...his car and his engineers had nothing to do with it
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